Beagle potty training problems when we're @ work
#253435 - 09/24/2009 08:18 PM |
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I'm new to the forum..
Alittle background, I've had Cody since he was 2 months, he is now 13 months. When we are home, he rings a bell on the door to let us know he has to go. At night he sleeps in a crate, from 9:30pm to 6am - no accidents.
Now to our problem...in the beginning we use to leave him in his crate while we were at work (7am to 5:30pm). He would poop and pee and get it all over himself, we tried this for about 6 months (no change). So we decide to let him stay in the laundry room, now he pees and poops all over the laundry room. I thought maybe he can't hold it that long, but if this is the case...when will he be able to hold it.
Dont know what to do..any help/advise would be great.
Also..the crate is not too big, it has a divider.
Thx, Melinda & Cody
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Re: Beagle potty training problems when we're @ wo
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#253442 - 09/24/2009 08:53 PM |
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No one can come in and give him a potty break during the day? You're instilling a habit here that you don't want to instill.
Don't go by sleeping hours of holding it to gauge awake hours; it's not the same.
Think of yourself having to hold everything from 7 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. Now think of how it would be with a smaller bladder.
This is going to take a little work to un-train what you have "trained" (that he has to go in the house because he has no option).
I sure do hope that no one has corrected him in any way for this, including verbally.
I have heard people say that Beagles are a little more difficult to house-train. I think that once the size of the bladder has been adjusted for, they are trained like other breeds. And even if they were slower, this is beyond reasonable hold-it time for a smaller dog. (A larger breed, quite possible.)
Poop schedules can be modified by changing feeding times, but peeing, not so much. And I would never want to withhold water; he needs water going in and out all the time for many systems to function right, and certainly for his urinary tract to be healthy.
So .... starting with first steps: how can he get a break midday? And how can you adjust poop time? When is poop time now (you will know this from weekends)?
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Re: Beagle potty training problems when we're @ wo
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#253445 - 09/24/2009 09:10 PM |
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Thx for the response!!
No, there is no option for a mid-day break.
Now as for his poop schedule, when he gets up (6am) he poops, he eats and then he poops again (not right after he eats, usually 30 minutes after). Then he is put in the laundry room (with his water bowl). When we get home some times there are two sepearte poops piles, usually one. And then after he eats and goes for a walk he poops one more time.
Also he seems to love peeing on my washer/dryer and my boiler system.
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Re: Beagle potty training problems when we're @ wo
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#253446 - 09/24/2009 09:14 PM |
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... he seems to love peeing on my washer/dryer and my boiler system.
Like other male dogs, he lifts his leg and aims at something. Nothing to do with a vendetta against the washer.
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#253447 - 09/24/2009 09:16 PM |
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Is there something I can spray on it so that he wont pee on them??? I was thinking about pee-pee pads, but I am sure Cody will chew them up. Know of any that can withstand dogs who love chewing things apart.
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#253451 - 09/24/2009 09:34 PM |
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I think this is a pretty bad situation.
I will make a suggestion, but please know that I don't like it, and I'm just scraping the bottom of the barrel to help this dog, who I imagine might be the object of some negative energy, if not verbal corrections, for something he can't help. (I hope not.)
I would start looking for someone to give him a midday break, and meanwhile I would probably set up an x-pen in the room where he spends the day. If he chews up paper but not fabric, I would probably put an old bath towel down in half of the x-pen. At least it's in the room where the wet towel can go straight into the washer.
I would make sure never to come in at 5:30, angry or anxious and giving him the perception that his owner is mysteriously angry at him every day after work.
Maybe someone else will have better ideas.
I hope it's very clear that (1) he cannot help this at all, and (2) every day that he is forced to go indoors reinforces that habit. I imagine that after all these months, his hard-wired inhibitions against going in his home are pretty much shot to heck.
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#253452 - 09/24/2009 09:41 PM |
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...when will he be able to hold it
I don't know if he will ever be able to hold it for over ten hours. Maybe he never would have been able to (because of the size of the smaller-dog bladder), but now that he has been trained to go inside every day, there's no way to even know how long he can hold it any more.
A dog learns to hold it partly via his learning that someone will come and give him relief at certain intervals. So he learns that if he holds it for that interval, he will be let outside.
He also has certain inhibitions against going in his "den."
Both of these have been negated by his body's needs and the fact that he has no doable relief to count on.
JMO.
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#253454 - 09/24/2009 09:48 PM |
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Thanks for the response. But he is not an object of negative energy.
I hear so many people talk about how their dog holds it while they are at work. I can't seem to understand what I'm doing wrong. I can't afford a dog walker/day care and I can't afford not to work.
My friends 9 pound dog holds his pee & poop all day while she's at work. She says that Cody will get there, but its been so long.
I dont want to reinforce this behavior, but without giving him a mid-day break...what else can I do???? Will he be able to hold it, or is this just not feasible??? Thanks again for all responses. Anything will help = )
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#253456 - 09/24/2009 10:01 PM |
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Do you have a garage? Can you put a dog kennel in there? It doesn't have to be huge for a beagle.
At this point you have very effectively trained your dog for when you're home. The problem is knowing when the battle is lost and creating an opportunity for success out of this mess. When you're not there is when your issue occurs. It's out of your control and there is not alot of point in fighting it when it seems that you don't have the time to spend on it.
My suggestions for this dog is either kenneling in a place that's safe like a garage or doggie daycare. You can set your dog up in a situation where if he needs to go he will be forced to go (through no other options) in a place that's ok. It'll relieve your anxiety and his about the animal waste and chewing as well.
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#253457 - 09/24/2009 10:06 PM |
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Do you have a garage? Can you put a dog kennel in there? It doesn't have to be huge for a beagle.
At this point you have very effectively trained your dog for when you're home. The problem is knowing when the battle is lost and creating an opportunity for success out of this mess. When you're not there is when your issue occurs. It's out of your control and there is not alot of point in fighting it when it seems that you don't have the time to spend on it.
My suggestions for this dog is either kenneling in a place that's safe like a garage or doggie daycare. You can set your dog up in a situation where if he needs to go he will be forced to go (through no other options) in a place that's ok. It'll relieve your anxiety and his about the animal waste and chewing as well.
" You can set your dog up in a situation where if he needs to go he will be forced to go (through no other options) in a place that's ok."
Thank you, Melissa! This is so much better than an x-pen in the laundry room!
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