I am testing my dog with our new E Collar to find out what # on the dogtra 1900 he can percieve. He makes NO reaction (mean, lounging around in the yard as cool as a cucumber) until level 37 with a short press of continuous.
I've read so many posts where people talk about working their dogs at 12-15 or so. Tell you what, I thought high thirties were getting pretty dam painful when I tried it on myself.
Do some dogs just not notice the lower levels? Far as I can tell the collar is functioning properly.
How tight the collar is and how thick the dog's coat can make a difference. We have the collar on fairly tight for Hans, and he can feel it in the low 20's. But if we loosen it up he won't feel it until the 40's.
I've tried it on people and have found some that can feel it as low as 5 and others who can't feel anything until about 15. I think it varies for dogs too.
Perhaps I will try again and try to tighten the collar. I put it on right behind his ears and as snug as I thought I was comfortable with. Maybe I am getting evidence that it just IS too loose- I have been unsure of that this whole time. It seemed mighty snug, but maybe not. If he gives a good shake he can move the box an inch or two. It's not easy to move it by hand.
BTW This dog is a GSD X. He is much shorter coated than my female GSD, he has a little bit of GSD double coat on his back but under his throat and neck he is more like a yellow lab- very short soft hairs, none of the long coarse ones.
Juliana;
You should not be able to shift the collar at all. I always wiggle the box to displace the hair. Most of the dogs I counsel are on a working level of 18-21 under not distractions.
Hope this helps,
Happy Training,
Roni
Thanks everyone...update: i tested him again with the collar much tighter and this is what happened:
I scrolled all the way up to 28 with NO response whatsoever. Then suddenly at 28 he yelped and jumped a foot into the air. Then I went back down to 20 and he was concerned about that and decided the porch was to blame and he wouldn't lay there any more.
How did we go from he couldn't feel it, to it was bad enough to yelp and jump? After this he clearly felt the 20 as well, he twitched and looked around suspiciously. Then he just began pacing and hiding behind furniture and so on, so we stopped.
First of all you need to have the dog on leash. Some places on the neck will elicit a different response, for that reason, I always start the collar on the trachea. Start at 10 (dogtra) and slowly increase the intensity, watch for an ear flick or a blink, that is your working level. Proceed with marker training.
Hope this helps. If you have not conditioned the dog to wearing the collar, I would back up and do that. Sounds like you will be using the collar for a correction, therefore the dog should know the command before you reinforce it with the collar. Hope this helps,
Happy Training,
Roni
By "conditioning to wear the collar"- I assume you meant desensitizing him to it? He has been wearing it for a little over a week turned off (for 3 or 4 hrs at a time) I have carried the remote around too.
I have done a lot of training with him using only positive reinforcement. He has a good working knowledge of the basics. The reason I went to the E Collar w/him is he's a super critterer- has made successful kills, and nothing I have motivates him enough to work at that level with positive reinforcement. I am hoping to make a more well balanced program and start him all over from the bottom up using the ecollar to reinforce the commands he already knows with the hope of being able to work him at a higher distraction level than I am able to now. (He will not come off a scent or a critter by voice only most of the time)
Sounds good, I would suggest making sure to have high value treats, use your foundation training, and practice under a low level of distraction, increasing the distraction until he doesn't comply (be inovative here)correct starting at his working level and increase only until compliance, then reward for correct behavior. Long line on the dog so you can help with
direction and ultimately you can then move to proofing on the critters.
Let me know how it goes.
Happy Training,
Roni
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Can he really not feel that??
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