I'm not an expert in much of anything real and have zero bitework experience, but I don't think a 6 month old puppy is capable of doing doing anything for "real".It's still just intense play even though it looks pretty impressive. This would probably fall under "heavy distraction training" like a lot of the mondio ringsport people do with their dogs.
Is it just me or do some of those obstacles barely look safe enough for an adult dog? let alone a young puppy.
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Even that video is training related. A handler truly doesn't know what a dog will do until it's faced with an acutal situation. This is what "real" bitework looks like. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYErjneazQw
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Any behavior that is reinforced is more likely to occur again.
Even that video is training related. A handler truly doesn't know what a dog will do until it's faced with an acutal situation. This is what "real" bitework looks like. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYErjneazQw
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That dog never stopped wagging his tail even when the creep was throwing him around...
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Although you try to train as "real" as you can...nothing beats the "real" thing.
Scenario training will give you a pretty good idea how a dog will perform in the real world, but nothing is absolute.
In the real world there is real adrenalin, real cops, real bad guys, and real bites. You cannot duplicate that in training.
That said...the first video was pretty good training in my book...except the 2 dog deployments. I understand they want to build the dogs' confidence but, only when the dog by himself will you know for sure what he is made of.
I'd rather have the dog feed off the handler instead of another dog. With 2 or more dogs it becomes a competition between them. There is also the hierarchy issue with more than one dog. JMO
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Quote: Howard Knauf
... That said...the first video was pretty good training in my book...except the 2 dog deployments. I understand they want to build the dogs' confidence but, only when the dog by himself will you know for sure what he is made of. ... I'd rather have the dog feed off the handler instead of another dog. With 2 or more dogs it becomes a competition between them. There is also the hierarchy issue with more than one dog. JMO
Also, the dog would hardly ever experience real-life multi-dog deployments ... ?
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Quote: Connie Sutherland
Quote: Howard Knauf
... That said...the first video was pretty good training in my book...except the 2 dog deployments. I understand they want to build the dogs' confidence but, only when the dog by himself will you know for sure what he is made of. ... I'd rather have the dog feed off the handler instead of another dog. With 2 or more dogs it becomes a competition between them. There is also the hierarchy issue with more than one dog. JMO
Also, the dog would hardly ever experience real-life multi-dog deployments ... ?
Would that be right, Howard?
seen some French vids, apparently French LEOs do deploy two or three dogs. I could see the tactical logic in that, Perp can't get all three
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I don't pretend to know what these guys intentions are with their training other than I can speculate because of the training areas are in India. Perhaps they do multi dog deployments?
I imagine their ladderwork, tires and the like are so dogs can experience natural consequences as related to heights, placement and gait. I agree that perhaps they're asking alot of puppies but considering what I imagine the demands are of them as adults probably best to start young.
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