 Found a gsd need some feedback
#265192 - 02/14/2010 08:50 AM |
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Re: Found a gsd need some feedback
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#265196 - 02/14/2010 09:38 AM |
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I don't know too much about pedigrees, but that dog certainly is handsome!
Are you planning on keeping the dog as a pet?
If so, I think its probably more important to find out why the breeder did not home him as a young pup. For example, if he was kept as a breeding prospect finding out the reason why they decided not to breed him may be important.
Did you meet him yet?
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#265200 - 02/14/2010 10:46 AM |
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Ditto on trying to find out why the breeder held onto this dog for so long.
Also, it looks like this dog is from showlines. I don't know if you were looking for a working prospect or not. But if you are, this dog may not be the right fit.
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#265201 - 02/14/2010 10:57 AM |
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Hi Frank, he is a nice looking dog. As I remember, this is going to be your first dog ever, so a non-working line dog makes perfect sense. I agree to find out why the breeder kept him this long - that doesn't mean it is anything negative, just good info to have. Had he hoped to show him but ran into a conformation issue or had someone purchased the pup and returned him? If so, you would want to know why. Again - none of these would prevent him from being a good pet, but is information you need. The more info you can aquire, such as what type of training he has undergone and methods will help you better know what you might be bringing into your family. Good luck!
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#265203 - 02/14/2010 11:07 AM |
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lotta Sch titles in the Ped, I'm gonna guess he'll be a bit more then a pet and need to work
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#265204 - 02/14/2010 11:23 AM |
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Yes there are Sch titles, but I THINK what I've learned from this site is that working line dogs/titles are generally harder to come by than those given to showline dogs... at least this is what I was told about Falcon's ped (and with those exceptions on both sides). His is a bit more "intense" (if that is the correct terminology) than this dog's but he has been a pretty good match for me and my lack of experience. Definitely not a couch potato dog but one which I've been able to learn with. When I see Falcon and Erika together, there is a pretty clear difference... :-)
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#265209 - 02/14/2010 01:27 PM |
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Yes there are Sch titles, but I THINK what I've learned from this site is that working line dogs/titles are generally harder to come by than those given to showline dog...
Titles on the showlines are not the same as the working line dog titles. Many of the showline dogs that are titled can practically be run off the field & still get a title. (I'm sure someone will not be happy that I said this, but it's true) They usually have alot less drive & are much easier to live with, especially for a first dog. You have to want the intesity (& know how to channel it) to live with most working line dogs. Many people find that they are far too much 'work' to keep them satisfied & 'livable'. Think standing out in the pouring rain or blizzard conditions for an hour 2-3x a day because your dogs HAVE to work. That will usually tell you if you are REALLY wanting that level of intensity to live with.
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#265214 - 02/14/2010 02:20 PM |
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I'd meet with this dog an evaluate temperament before committing to anything with this one. I'd also want to know what the dog knows how to do and where his bad manners are. 8 months old is still a very unfinished puppy normally but will give you an idea of how much retraining work you're committing to.
As others have pointed out also trying to get out of the breeder why they are letting this dog go at this age. It's possible they do this on purpose for clients to provide started dogs, it's possible that this dog couldn't sell (the economy does suck), or it's possible that they wanted to retain the dog but something with their life or the dog isn't working out. It happens.
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#265226 - 02/14/2010 04:53 PM |
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Hi Frank,
I have a showlines dog that i love, with that said...he doesn't remotley compare to my working lines dogs. My opinion is don't mess around with a showlines dog, they suck, LOL. Betty has a litter on the ground right now, it's a repeat breeding and she says they're excellent pups. I might fly down a steal 2 or 3 of them  http://www.littlerivercanine.com
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#265280 - 02/14/2010 10:01 PM |
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You have to want the intesity (& know how to channel it) to live with most working line dogs. Many people find that they are far too much 'work' to keep them satisfied & 'livable'. Think standing out in the pouring rain or blizzard conditions for an hour 2-3x a day because your dogs HAVE to work. That will usually tell you if you are REALLY wanting that level of intensity to live with.
True true true.
I have to admit that I didn't really know what I was getting into with my working line GSD. They are definitely different from other dogs if you want to keep one as a pet. I thought that with my previous experience of having a very high energy weimaraner I knew how to do it. Wrong!
If you don't spend your time actually "working" the drive you will spend a heck of a lot of time in obedience training and physically exercising to manage it. It's not easy living with a dog that has that extra dose of never give up.
My dog was the softy of the litter. I can't even imagine if I had ended up with one of the ones the breeder wouldn't let me have!
You do have a great resource here, though.
I wish I had found Leerburg when I first got my dog.
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