Yes, I know already-it is me.
Someone train me quick!
Puppy will NOT hold his piss in the crate, not even for an hour. I have tried a variety of bedding materials, and have blocked his crate so it is small. he lays right down it it, doesn't shake him at all.
He will squeeze his little butt shut for as long as it takes to defecate outside, and cues me very strongly when he wants to poop.
No signal for urination, although HE WON'T PEE ON THE CARPET-SO HE KNOWS. He will sneak back into the crate to piss. If I shut the door, he sneaks onto my blacony or, starting yesterday, the kitchen. EVERY time I take him outside, he pees. We go outside probably ten times a day.
If I catch him I clap my hands and yell No Potty- outside!, he immediately runs to the door and cues me.
Sigh. I am wore out. I hate cleaning piss, and it's something I am doing all day long. I have changed his call name to "Pisspot".
What am I doing wrong?
Currently I have removed all bedding from his crate-but still he's using it like a stinking litterbox, no matter how much bleach and pine sol
I use. Now he lays down in a pool and uses his fur like a urine sponge. He pisses the instant I close the crate door, even if he's just been outside.
I also moved his crate to right by the door. I am hoping I will notice better this way that he is sneaking over there and then I can take him outside and he may realize the cue is the same for poop and pee?
But, then, shouldn't the animal be making some effort to hold it by now? Even if he starts cuing me, I really don't want to take him out twenty times a day.

Alex- I would start by using Nature's Miracle or another product designed to eliminate pet urine odor to clean out the crate. Then I would focus on how much the pup is drinking. I also would not give the pup as much freedom in the house as it sounds that you have.
Try not to stress the pup out too much when He has an accident. I know it's frustrating and tiring. My wife has a resentment because I wouldn't get up with our three crying kids when they were infants, but I spring out of bed at 4am when my pup makes a peep (hey, priorities). <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Ringsport
Thanks for the advice. Okay, nature's miracle for the crate. Just re-read Ed's article on housebreaking, so maybe the pine-sol is encouraging this bad habit.
Ringsport, I have a hard little head and often do not hear correctly what has been said to me. Let me say back to you what I think you said to me before I try anything on the pooch.
*So you think I SHOULD get up and take him out when he cries in the crate at night then? Will this encourage the whining? This guy is a big fat crybaby in the crate generally, even during his short half hour times. He is almost four months old now-but hell, better to take him out then buy a new roll of paper towels every day I guess.

*You think I should NOT do the yell and "potty outside" thing when I catch him taking a leak in the crate? Just quietly take him outside you think?

* Finally, you are saying to confine him more until he is housebroken? I am also beginning to think he is not quite ready for this much house privelege. He can be in the combo dining/living room, the bathroom, and the kitchen, which is very very small. He knows he cannot go in the bedroom at all. So then should I crate him even when I am home? It stinks because I can be home a lot, but normally I am typing in the den. I cannot eyeball him most of the day-typing is what I do.
Maybe a leash attached to my belt? I did this with my bitch five years ago, but she was not nearly so active. I think this pup would be hysterical if I tried it.

I think the rule of thumb for pups to hold their urine is two hours per month of age for the first few months. What I meant about springing out of bed is that if he pees around midnight, it's a safe bet he'll have to go around 4am. If I wait until 5 or 5:30am, there's a good chance he'll not make it. As far as the crying and carrying on in the crate, mine was cured of that in three days. Now the crate is his place to relax. When I'm home during the day, I'll either tether him in the kitchen with a bone to naw on or put him outside on a ten foot lead fastened to a cinderblock (he now drags the cinderblock around, six inches at a time). He gets free water in the morning and afternoon. No water passed 7pm. Maybe I'm just lucky. My pup has adjusted real well. My biggest problem is the constant biting of EVERYTHING.

I think Ringsport has given excellent advice. For getting the urine smell out of the crate try Urine-Erase(www.reidell.com) it is the best product I've found for this type of thing. Also, what kind of crate are you using?

For Ringsport-
No crying after 3 days? Lucky you. I tried yesterday and this morning to faithfully adhere to Ed's advice in the article-about putting him right back in the crate if he didn't pee outside, and also tried your advice about getting up pretty early to go out, then back in my warm bed for me and crate for him! He went out of the crate on a schedule, more or less.
Guess what? No pee in the crate-yet.
For tiggy2-
I am using the Evil Crate that speared little Pisspot's eyeball. I have no idea of the brand anymore-it is a pretty typical airline-type plastic crate.