 Questions on socializing a "Donor Dog'
#274029 - 04/23/2010 02:25 AM |
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I am contemplating adopting a huge breed puppy (Gt. Pyr X Akita). I have been searching through all the training/socializing, etc articles. I have a bizarre question. Considering her future size and the fact that I have an auto-immune syndrome BC that requires periodic blood transfusions, and my part time job is at a vet clinic, I have thought about using her as a blood donor for my dog and the occassional patient. I am planning on feeding her raw to keep her in the best health possible, but, do I allow her to be social and friendly with strangers or do I keep everyone from messing with her as a pup? I would rather she not be stressed or anesthesized when donating, but I don't want her 'eating' the vet or techs working with her either. Being her breed (or cross of breeds) I know she could potentially be a danger to strangers. I do plan on being with her if and when she donates, but I would rather take all risk out of the procedure.
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Re: Questions on socializing a "Donor Dog'
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#274030 - 04/23/2010 02:49 AM |
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You need to socialize her to all kinds of people and situations but socialization does not mean you have to let everyone pet and fuss over her. It only means that the dog is exposed to and thus familiar with people of all sizes, shapes and colors, those wearing glasses, those wearing hats of various types, different clothing, etc. And that she's exposed to all kinds of environments from the vet's office to stairs to various floorings and types of outdoor surfaces.
And, of course it goes without saying, obedience training is an absolute must.
"A dog wags his tail with his heart." Max Buxbaum
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Re: Questions on socializing a "Donor Dog'
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#274033 - 04/23/2010 03:45 AM |
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#274044 - 04/23/2010 07:23 AM |
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Lisa,
This is JMO, but I'd make sure she's very happy at the vet's...I'd take her there to visit often, when she's not having any procedures done, and give her a ton of treats. You could have her practice getting on and off the table, weigh her, stuff like that, too, anything that she'll need to be comfortable with for making the donations.
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#274085 - 04/23/2010 12:27 PM |
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I agree with the previous posts about socialization.
Another thing I would do, is get her to lay down in various places, on various things, high, low, narrow, wide and touch her legs, ears, eyes, mouth.
Teach her to lay and be calm in various situations (especially at the vet) and also teach her to be touched. If you can, enlist the help of a fellow vet tech, and every shift spend like 2 minutes doing a physical exam. Also, lift her on and off the tables, put her in and out of the kennels there. She should be so comfortable at the clinic, she just lays there and passes out (when she is tired of course).
Exercise her before you go so she is very tired when she gets there. This will help her learn that the vet clinic is for calm time!
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Re: Questions on socializing a "Donor Dog'
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#274178 - 04/23/2010 10:11 PM |
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That's what I was thinking, too. I want to bring her there as often as possible and let everyone (staff) handle her. I want to make sure that even if she has to stay there without me for whatever reason, she will allow others to handle her. I have had a problem with several of my dogs that will let me do anything to them, but will snap at staff trying to move them from kennel to exam room, etc when I am not around. I just don't want her 'friendly' enough to let a stranger remove her from my yard or car. I don't really know how to work that. Do I make any sense?
Also, is it normal for my dogs to behave that way? I've had three over the years that will snap at (no true bites) vet staff that have tried to leash and move them without me there. These same dogs will allow the same people to pet/feed them when I am there. What have I done wrong?
TIA - you all are awesome.
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Re: Questions on socializing a "Donor Dog'
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#274194 - 04/23/2010 11:16 PM |
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I think I would have 1 (maybe 2) people you work with be able to handle her. They will need to practice, just like you do, with her in different situations.
Your dogs see you as their leader, so they look to you when they are in a new or uncomfortable situation. When you are not there, they will take matters into their own hands, because there is no leader present. I think this would be normal for a dog and I would prefer it myself.
I would choose another trusted person to handle her if you are unable, but asking a dog to trust and look to to every human being it meets as a leader is not realistic in my opinion. Also, then asking the dog to not be friendly to certain people who might take her from your yard is also pushing it. Again my opinion.
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Re: Questions on socializing a "Donor Dog'
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#274198 - 04/24/2010 12:44 AM |
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Thank you for the reply, Niomi. I was kind of hoping that was the reason and not that my dogs (or me) were/are 'off.' lol
Hey - my dogs see me as leader! Yeah, I may be doing something right after all!
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Re: Questions on socializing a "Donor Dog'
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#274207 - 04/24/2010 06:49 AM |
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Get her used to a clipper early. Akitas have heavy fur over the cephalic vein. Even though they are huge dogs sometimes it's hard to hit the vein.
Multiple sticks can wreck a donor dogs cooperative attitude.
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#274231 - 04/24/2010 04:38 PM |
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I saw a documentary where zoo folks were using marker training to teach big cats to have blood tests.
They take blood from the tail, so taught the cats to have their tail handled. Taught them to tolerate clippers next to their tail, eventually to have the fur clipped. Then they touched blunt needles to the skin and applied pressure - basically building up and marking every stage until they could draw blood without issue
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