Niomi Smith wrote 05/04/2010 09:23 PM Chick peas: Good or bad?? #275152 - 05/04/2010 09:23 PM
Niomi Smith Webboard User Reg: 04-20-2009 Posts: 786 Loc: Whitehorse, Yukon Offline	So, I have discovered that my dogs LOVE chickpeas. We have been feeding them, chickpeas as a side to their raw meals about 1-2 times a week for the last little while. Does anyone have any experience feeding chickpeas long term? Any risk to the dogs? Any reasons you wouldn't feed? Is there a "safe" limit of what I can feed per week? I am serious that they LOVE them. If they hear the can opener, they all start searching around to see what I am opening. They eat the chickpeas BEFORE they eat their meat!!!
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Connie Sutherland wrote 05/04/2010 10:03 PM Re: Chick peas: Good or bad?? [Re: Niomi Smith ] #275154 - 05/04/2010 10:03 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Canned, right? (They are usually loaded with salt and most dogs like salt a lot. ) I'm surprised you aren't seeing a lot of flatulence. If they tolerate them OK, and you rinse them thoroughly (most canned beans really have a ton of salt added), they are probably OK in small amounts. But I would consider them to be occasional treats, fed singly, rather than an actual regular diet component. There are several reasons for not making vegetable carb/proteins regular substantial parts of the dog's diet that we could go into if you want tomorrow.
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Michael_Wise wrote 05/04/2010 10:08 PM Re: Chick peas: Good or bad?? [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #275157 - 05/04/2010 10:08 PM
Michael_Wise Webboard User Reg: 07-10-2006 Posts: 4454 Loc: Arkansas Offline	Quote: Connie Sutherland There are several reasons that we could go into if you want, tomorrow when I have more time, for not making vegetable proteins regular substantial parts of the dog's diet. I'd like to hear it when you've got time.:smile: Sign me up for any of your teaching sessions. I'll be the dorky, annoying kid sitting in the front row asking all the questions.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 05/04/2010 10:09 PM Re: Chick peas: Good or bad?? [Re: Michael_Wise ] #275159 - 05/04/2010 10:09 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	You got it!
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Connie Sutherland wrote 05/04/2010 10:12 PM Re: Chick peas: Good or bad?? [Re: Michael_Wise ] #275160 - 05/04/2010 10:12 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Michael_Wise I'll be the dorky, annoying kid sitting in the front row asking all the questions. Bring dark chocolate.
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Niomi Smith wrote 05/04/2010 11:29 PM Re: Chick peas: Good or bad?? [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #275174 - 05/04/2010 11:29 PM
Niomi Smith Webboard User Reg: 04-20-2009 Posts: 786 Loc: Whitehorse, Yukon Offline	I'm in for the teaching lesson too! They do have salt added but we have been rinsing them thoroughly. I didn't plan on them being a regular diet component, but what would be the reason for not making vegetable carb/proteins regular substantial parts of the dog's diet? Thanks Connie!
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Meredith Hamilton wrote 05/05/2010 02:43 AM Re: Chick peas: Good or bad?? [Re: Niomi Smith ] #275178 - 05/05/2010 02:43 AM
Meredith Hamilton Webboard User Reg: 01-25-2009 Posts: 1082 Loc: Columbus, Ohio Offline	I'll be attending this class, too, if Michael will save me a seat. I've been studying ahead, trying to prove to a friend that the vegetarian diet he has his dog on is not in the dog's best interest. So far my pleas have fallen on deaf ears. I need more ammo, Connie. Ripley & his Precious
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Tracy Collins wrote 05/05/2010 08:41 AM Re: Chick peas: Good or bad?? [Re: Meredith Hamilton ] #275185 - 05/05/2010 08:41 AM
Tracy Collins Webboard User Reg: 10-09-2008 Posts: 1917 Loc: St. Louis, Missouri Offline	Chick peas have a lot of fiber. So, in theory, they could be used as an occasional poop-fixer, like pumpkin. But I agree with Connie that they shouldn't be such a regular or substantial part of the diet that they are taking away meat calories. I'd put them in the same category as carrots or rice (as in, a few bites every now and then, but not that often.) My personal preferences for vegetable matter in the diet are 1.) green tripe and 2.) greens like spinach, kale, romaine, beet tops, collards, brocolli stems--or berries. I think all these are more nutrient-dense, and have far less starch. Cinco | Jack | Fanny | Ellie | Chip | Deacon
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Niomi Smith wrote 05/05/2010 11:00 AM Re: Chick peas: Good or bad?? [Re: Tracy Collins ] #275204 - 05/05/2010 11:00 AM
Niomi Smith Webboard User Reg: 04-20-2009 Posts: 786 Loc: Whitehorse, Yukon Offline	Thanks for the replies everyone! Chickpeas are a new thing, so I will make sure they stay a few and far between treat. I usually use carrots, blueberries, raspberries, blackberries, banana-pretty much whatever is about to go bad or I buy frozen bags of veggies and fruit and just use that. So is there any way to make a "online classroom" that we can all log into and ask questions and have a discussion in real time, with Connie as the "teacher"?
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Connie Sutherland wrote 05/05/2010 12:26 PM Re: Chick peas: Good or bad?? [Re: Meredith Hamilton ] #275213 - 05/05/2010 12:26 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: meredith hamilton I've been studying ahead, trying to prove to a friend that the vegetarian diet he has his dog on is not in the dog's best interest. Wow. That's a whole other topic, really, and one that makes me kinda crazy. I know we all know the basic answer(s) to that (as in, "look at your dog's teeth and GI system; is that an animal designed for soybeans?"), but I'll see if I have any really succinct quotes about that or maybe just a brief recap of my own POV (as a vegetarian who would never in a million years make my dogs follow suit). Well, it's 10:30 and I haven't even started working yet. Later ....
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