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#24538 - 06/15/2002 01:27 PM |
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i have a gsd that is way too high drive to the point of people calling him hectic...i have tried a lot of things-running-treats-tug...just can't get him too focus...and he's very dog aggressive...any solutions?(p.s he's been compared to a mallinios time and time again)
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#24539 - 06/15/2002 01:48 PM |
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Is he handler aggressvive? This will help in answering the question. There are many ways that you can help this. One, if your dog is hectic, would be to train the way that Bernhard Flinks does. Buy the video that Ed has Training Drive Focus and Grip. This method could prove to be helpful. Let us know if he is a handler fighter and I may have some other ideas for you. How old is this dog also? Let me know.
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#24540 - 06/15/2002 02:06 PM |
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thank-you michael; <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> the answer is yes up until recently...due to the fact i ws determined on using motivational training from his foundation...but have opted to compulsion <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> due to lack of control...compulsion meaning using his prong collar and getting my timing right... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> and p.s he's 22 months old 
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#24541 - 06/15/2002 02:21 PM |
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So I am right in saying that he is no longer handler aggressive now that you are using compulsion. What sighns of aggession did he show towards yourself and other people. Is he aggessive towards other humans when not provoked?
At 22 months there is still some time to correct and mold certain issues that you are having. Some issue's can be fixed, other will work, but at some time he will revert back to his old ways. If you can answer the above, we can move foward with ideas. Also how long have you been training for? Do you train at a club also? How often do you work this dog? Also what bloodlines is this dog from?
All of these questions may seem to be annoying, but will help in steering you in the right direction.
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#24542 - 06/15/2002 02:34 PM |
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thank-you once again michael; <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> he's working lines...and he was starting to bite me a little hard and when i got too close to his face he would start to show teeth and let me know he was not happy with that...but thanx to the handy dandy prong we've worked thru that...i used to work him constantly before ever since i brought him home @ 6 weeks old...not hard stuff...just basic obdience..but he had no time to be a dog(no cuddling,no petting,no off leash)...right now i go to private 1/weekand group 1/week...
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#24543 - 06/15/2002 03:30 PM |
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This dog is not a dog that needs to be around other dogs right now.(Based on your other thread you posted also) I would forget the whole club thing right now and work on serious obedience establishing you as the leader. This may or may not be too much of a dog for you to handle and I don't mean that as a knock. You should muzzle him and work in serious obedience before someone gets bitten badly.
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#24544 - 06/15/2002 10:32 PM |
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Since you brought him home at 6 weeks, I'd say you've probably missed the boat on socializing him to other dogs. I don't think this can be reversed. Sounds like he's pretty dominant, too. You can't change that he is dominant personality, but you can gain control through appropriate leadership (leadership based upon respect, not "I'm bigger and stronger than you"; what happens when he realizes that HE is bigger and stronger???). This dog is 2 years old, though, so you do have your work cut out for you.
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#24545 - 06/16/2002 02:28 PM |
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Just curious, but what do you mean by the NOT I'm bigger and stronger way?
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#24547 - 06/16/2002 07:23 PM |
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VanCamp, my personal opinion, take it for what it's worth, is that outsmarting is a more preferable way to earn respect than basing your dominance on physical prowess. I think that the more hands off you can be, the better. With dogs, rank is more psychological than anything, even the dominant dog. That's all. I'm not sure why I even threw that in there, really, except that I think there is more going on here than meets the eye. I'm not sure that this dog's problem is one of "motivational training vs. compulsion". It's probably more complex than that. For example, this part leaves me a bit mystified, and makes me think that there is more to it....:
he's working lines...and he was starting to bite me a
little hard and when i got too close to his face he would start to show teeth and let me know
he was not happy with that...but thanx to the handy dandy prong we've worked thru that...i
used to work him constantly before ever since i brought him home @ 6 weeks old...not hard
stuff...just basic obdience..but he had no time to be a dog(no cuddling,no petting,no off
leash)...right now i go to private 1/weekand group 1/week...
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