 Eggs: raw vs. cooked
#289501 - 08/02/2010 12:06 PM |
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I'm familiar with the prohibition against feeding raw chicken eggs with too much frequency because of biotin-avidin binding (I don't understand the chemistry involved, but I get the gist of it.) My dogs currently get perhaps one raw egg with shell per week, sometimes two. They love them.
But I have a new backyard chicken flock that will within the next few weeks start producing several dozens of eggs a week.
So--could hard-cooked eggs be used in a larger way in my dogs' diet as another regular protein source? How about the shells of hard-cooked eggs? Does cooking eggshells do anything bad? (I'm thinking how cooking bones changes their composition, but wasn't sure if the digestibility of shells was changed by cooking.)
My vision once the egg production gets going is that I might hard-boil dozens of eggs at a time and then put them shell and all through my grinder, along with the regular RMBs I feed them. Any thoughts on this?
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Re: Eggs: raw vs. cooked
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#289506 - 08/02/2010 12:26 PM |
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Tracy, I have to leave your question regarding the extra eggs for dogs to the pros, but I will tell you that you can freeze eggs (out of the shell - slightly beat and pour into icecube trays for cooking later on) plus chickens LOVE hardboiled eggs! The extra protein is great for them at any time but especially when molting or brooding... Enjoy your new flock! 
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I'm familiar with the prohibition against feeding raw chicken eggs with too much frequency because of biotin-avidin binding (I don't understand the chemistry involved, but I get the gist of it.) My dogs currently get perhaps one raw egg with shell per week, sometimes two. They love them.
But I have a new backyard chicken flock that will within the next few weeks start producing several dozens of eggs a week.
So--could hard-cooked eggs be used in a larger way in my dogs' diet as another regular protein source? How about the shells of hard-cooked eggs? Does cooking eggshells do anything bad? (I'm thinking how cooking bones changes their composition, but wasn't sure if the digestibility of shells was changed by cooking.)
My vision once the egg production gets going is that I might hard-boil dozens of eggs at a time and then put them shell and all through my grinder, along with the regular RMBs I feed them. Any thoughts on this?
Yes, boiled eggs (4 minutes to totally inactivate the avidin) are safe from the avidin issue.
Calcium (the shells) is a sturdy mineral that no, is not damaged by cooking.
I'd feel fine about using cooked eggs as part of a raw diet. (I would leave the shells mostly off if using eggs frequently ..... one egg shell covers the calcium requirements of an entire two pounds of boneless meat; a lot of eggshells might well trigger constipation.)
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#289524 - 08/02/2010 02:02 PM |
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Just the info I needed. Thanks!
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Would it be OK then to give them scambled eggs or omlette?
Put whole eggs (and veggies) into a blender -> the shells and the veggies are pulverized, no chunks of veggies or pieces of shell in the poop.
Pour the mixture onto a very hot cast iron skillet -> no need for oil, the eggs are done almost immediately, the veggies are slightly cooked.
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#289698 - 08/03/2010 09:12 AM |
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Slightly OT, but does feeding eggs to chickens entail the same prion risks as feeding cows to cows?
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#289701 - 08/03/2010 09:20 AM |
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I am glad you asked that Aaron, I was wondering the same thing.
I lightly scramble the eggs I give to my dogs.
Raw eggs just don't agree with Nico's stomach, or my sense of smell 
That way I don't have to worry about the biotin issue either.
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#289726 - 08/03/2010 10:40 AM |
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Slightly OT, but does feeding eggs to chickens entail the same prion risks as feeding cows to cows?
I don't know what this means? What is a prion ? can someone explain this to me? Sorry, I am a city girl who needs to be educated. 
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#289733 - 08/03/2010 10:48 AM |
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Prions are infectious proteins that cause Mad Cow disease and Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease in people. One of the risk factors is eating of your own kind, which transmits the prions.
This is one reason why there are laws and regulations regarding the protein source in cattle feed.
I will go look for a better explanation than that for you. It is really fascinating, complicated, and also a little bit disturbing.
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#289734 - 08/03/2010 10:49 AM |
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Prion diseases are the end result of cannibalism.
That's what mad cow disease is, a prion disease caused by feeding cows, to cows.
We actually have prion diseases in humans, too. Fatal Familial Insomnia, for example. Its inherited these days, by the descendants of cannibals. The people literally die from lack of sleep. They cannot fall asleep, and it eventually kills them.
Edited by Aaron Myracle (08/03/2010 10:50 AM)
Edit reason: Redundancy FTW!!!
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