 would not get in the van
#293330 - 08/24/2010 02:58 PM |
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Hi everyone, I need some tips, Chico all of a sudden decides not to get in the van; So we can go for our walks. It is a Ford E-150 cargo. maybe a little high. but he has done the jump many of times. at first, he was a pup so I carried his back side into the van and crate. No problem, now that he is six months, and can jump in, he is stubborn. hot dogs does not work, kneeling down work for a short while, waving a rag work twice,. Walking around the van and just going for it work twice. Now he just sits there and won't come in. I had to lift him up. No fun.
I decided on a higher value treat. But I want him to go on my command. no tricks.
OK, I have seen him get car sick, twice. I drive slow, as needed. once we are out, tail wagging, walks now vary. not too long, several times a day. different modes. So what could it be? I don't feed on training days, Our drive to base is about fifteen minutes. We need's help. Dan
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Re: would not get in the van
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#293333 - 08/24/2010 03:53 PM |
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A ramp would probably be the safest way, Dan. As he puts on weight, the jump out can potentially be more dangerous. Fashion some wide ramp that can be slid onto the floor of the van, and you'll be good to go.
Agree with the higher value treat - get the habit established, and it's his choice - without force. Yes you want to get him to go on your command, but until it's a habit that he's convinced is worth his while...you'll get what you are getting. I think I'd try a machine gun, high value treat a time or two for getting in. Then once he's in have him sit and earn another treat. When he sees the van, you want him thinking, "oh boy, this is going to be FUN!!"
Good luck.
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Re: would not get in the van
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#293355 - 08/24/2010 06:06 PM |
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Thanks Rob. You are always their with good opinions. For instance the ramp, I was looking at the macho thing, John Wayne style, jump in and out. But the ramp is more safe for a longer and better quality of life. Thanks once again Rob. Dan
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Re: would not get in the van
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#293374 - 08/24/2010 08:53 PM |
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Dan, is there any chance he could have a minor injury which might be making the jumping up or down is causing his hesitation?
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Re: would not get in the van
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#293376 - 08/24/2010 09:39 PM |
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My pup went thru a phase where he would not get into the car. I live in the country, so I just got in the car myself, and drove slowly away. He would watch, and follow the car (I live out in the boonies, no traffic). He learned that if he wanted to be with me, well, he's going to have to get into that car because I am leaving.
Next, he went thru a phase where he would not get OUT of the car-I had to pull him out. After sitting in the car in the garage for several afternoon we seem to be over that now, too.
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#293379 - 08/24/2010 10:24 PM |
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Dan, Maggie went through a phase at about 9 months where she would not want to jump into the back of my car (small SUV). If the leash was on: no problem. Even to this day, when I open the back of the car, she acts like she doesn't want to go in. I back off and ignore her while I load up other stuff and she jumps in on her own. When I am in a hurry and there is no option, I make sure I put on the leash, take her to the car and in she goes. She really does not want to be left behind....
I did a bit of marker training. The command was "car". Jump in, you get the treat.
Now, I do have to admit my last dog would only put up her front paws and wanted a rear end lift into the car. What a whimp!!! She would only jump in when she didn't want to be left behind.
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#293393 - 08/25/2010 12:46 AM |
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Barbara, I haven't been to the vet on this issue, I can make an appointment just to make sure, he walks and runs fine, all OB work is good, tracking I have found no anomalies as far as walking.
I have basically taken baby steps with him, so it would blow my mind if he is injured, plus he is a baby, he would hollow and make you know about any discomfort. we will see. Thanks, Barbara. Dan
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#293394 - 08/25/2010 12:52 AM |
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Betty what situations we have to go thru with our dogs, I smile as I read your post. this will be resolve, I think Rob idea is what he wants, I use to put a stepping stool at first, but after I saw he could jump, I remove it. I guess I could try that again, see what he wants. Thanks Betty for sharing, Dan
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#293395 - 08/25/2010 01:04 AM |
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Marcia, I completely understand, the day a trainer show me not to hesitate, and walk right up to the van, it work. but only for two times. He also wants to be rear lifted. he is seventy pounds, I guess, I would do some training in this area with marker. But deep down, I think he is playing me. the day I got the rag out, bamm, here he came, but that trick only lasted once I believed. Thanks Marcia. Dan
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#293402 - 08/25/2010 07:32 AM |
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My pup went thru a phase where he would not get into the car.
That is what I was wondering, an age phase thing (fear or stubborn-ness)?
Our garage floor is on the slippery side and for some that causes hesitance going in and/or out depending on the dog. Is he comfortable with the ground surface? I have one that won't get in or out without the collar and leash on, don't know why but that is how it is--could be similar to Marcia's post. The ramp is a good thing to use, especially as they age (I know he's just a baby right now). For me it was easier to teach the young that is how it is, then to teach the old this is how it is now.
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