Danilo A. Nelson wrote 10/21/2010 04:19 PM Dog run #300036 - 10/21/2010 04:19 PM
Danilo A. Nelson Webboard User Reg: 02-05-2010 Posts: 573 Loc: Fort Bragg, NC Offline	Hi all, I wanted to know what is the best material for the middle portion of my dog run, The edges will have cow/horse mat. But the middle, I was going to use play sand, but there has to be a better material to use. What do you use? That also keeps ticks and fleas away. Dan A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than you love yourself. ~Josh Billings
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Tanith Wheeler wrote 10/21/2010 04:30 PM Re: Dog run [Re: Danilo A. Nelson ] #300037 - 10/21/2010 04:30 PM
Tanith Wheeler Webboard User Reg: 11-04-2008 Posts: 572 Loc: Hampshire, England Offline	Try something like chips of cedar bark
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Danilo A. Nelson wrote 10/21/2010 04:34 PM Re: Dog run [Re: Tanith Wheeler ] #300039 - 10/21/2010 04:34 PM
Danilo A. Nelson Webboard User Reg: 02-05-2010 Posts: 573 Loc: Fort Bragg, NC Offline	Tanith, thanks, is there any disadvantage in the cedar bark, like dogs chewing, I can't remember which one draws ticks. A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than you love yourself. ~Josh Billings
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Melissa Thom wrote 10/21/2010 04:34 PM Re: Dog run [Re: Tanith Wheeler ] #300040 - 10/21/2010 04:34 PM
Melissa Thom Webboard User Reg: 12-04-2007 Posts: 2781 Loc: Upper Left hand corner, USA Offline	How big of an area are you working on? A fair number of folks use pea gravel or chips. They're not my favorite though. I'd rather just paver the whole thing or use a rubber floor. If money were no object I'd use artificial turf over drain sand.
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Danilo A. Nelson wrote 10/21/2010 04:55 PM Re: Dog run [Re: Melissa Thom ] #300041 - 10/21/2010 04:55 PM
Danilo A. Nelson Webboard User Reg: 02-05-2010 Posts: 573 Loc: Fort Bragg, NC Offline	the area outside the house will be six" by four" deep, I need to look at the angle also about the pup swallowing the gravel, I know some bark are better than others, as far as fleas and tick plus odor. what you use for your horses? A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than you love yourself. ~Josh Billings
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Anne Jones wrote 10/21/2010 06:20 PM Re: Dog run [Re: Danilo A. Nelson ] #300053 - 10/21/2010 06:20 PM
Anne Jones Webboard User Reg: 04-29-2004 Posts: 3825 Loc: Northeast Offline	Horse stalls are usually based with stall mats & then covered with dried wood shavings or a few people still use straw. I have pea gravel in my kennel. I never had problems with puppies eating it, I suspect that some people may. Wood chips are good & have used them, but some dogs can be allergic. Ticks do not particularly like cedar. I have acres of woods on the other side of my back fence (6'cedar stockade)& have never had a tick problem & my dogs spend hours out in my yard & not usually in the kennel. I don't use it much with adult dogs,but then I also don't leave my dogs out in the yard if I am not home. To clean & disinfect I would spray with a clorox & water mix & let it sit a bit & them hose. I would think that sand would encourage fleas, especially in the warm climate of FL. MY DOGS...MY RULES
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Melissa Thom wrote 10/21/2010 06:34 PM Re: Dog run [Re: Anne Jones ] #300054 - 10/21/2010 06:34 PM
Melissa Thom Webboard User Reg: 12-04-2007 Posts: 2781 Loc: Upper Left hand corner, USA Offline	6 x 4 is small enough to use just about any material. I'd probably just use craigslist or freecycle pavers on sand. I've never had a problem with sand and normal fleas. I find that fleas tend to live in duff under shrubs and trees as they get spread around by rodents and cats.
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Konnie Hein wrote 10/21/2010 08:27 PM Re: Dog run [Re: Danilo A. Nelson ] #300062 - 10/21/2010 08:27 PM
Konnie Hein Webboard User Reg: 03-24-2006 Posts: 413 Loc: Connecticut Offline	I personally would forget about chips, sand or anything like that. I have chips in my dog yard and they disintegrate pretty quick. Once they are gone, you'll have mud. Depending on your dogs' coats, the sand might get into their coats and you'll have it all over your house/car/etc. too. I also have large gravel in 3 kennel runs and it is very difficult to keep clean. Personally, I'd go with pavers or another easily cleaned/hosed/disinfected surface as suggested by others. If you don't want something like that, my next suggestion would be pea gravel. Keep in mind though that the pea gravel will scatter onto the stall mats and you'll also be picking up gravel with each poop that gets scooped. After a while, you might have to replenish the pea gravel. And, if you decide to go with pea gravel, I'd suggest laying down some type of heavy-duty landscape fabric (maybe overlaid with mesh of some type so the dogs can't get to the fabric and pull it up) to prevent the gravel from disappearing into the dirt below. http://www.laforgemalinois.com
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Barbara Schuler wrote 10/21/2010 08:42 PM Re: Dog run [Re: Konnie Hein ] #300063 - 10/21/2010 08:42 PM
Barbara Schuler Webboard User Reg: 01-15-2009 Posts: 5090 Loc: Lanexa Virginia Offline	Are you worried about the dogs not relieving themselves, if needed, on the mat surface? If not, for an area that size, I'd use the rubber stall mats over the entire area. Easy to clean or sanitize, easy on joints, etc... IF you are trying to insert an "absorbant" area cypress mulch is considered to be "insect repellant" but I can not attest to if that is accurate. There is also a rubber "mulch" on the market, generally shredded tires (but not unattractive) which is used in playgrounds, etc... It won't decompose, but does initially have a "rubbery" smell which dissipates.
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Konnie Hein wrote 10/21/2010 08:53 PM Re: Dog run [Re: Danilo A. Nelson ] #300065 - 10/21/2010 08:53 PM
Konnie Hein Webboard User Reg: 03-24-2006 Posts: 413 Loc: Connecticut Offline	Quote: danilo a. nelson the area outside the house will be six" by four" deep I just re-read this and noted that you typed six inches by four inches. I'm assuming you mean feet, but still, a standard sized stall mat is usually around that size. Are you sure that's the size of the area? If so, I'm with Barbara, just use a stall mat. http://www.laforgemalinois.com
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