Lisa Geller wrote 05/30/2002 03:47 PM Growling dogs with wagging tails #25944 - 05/30/2002 03:47 PM
Lisa Geller Webboard User Reg: 03-04-2002 Posts: 122 Loc: Minneapolis Offline	Was walking in the park this morning and ran across a person entering the park with a spaniel type dog. The dog began growling at my dog while at the same time the stub of a tail was wagging. Is this dog being agressive, or just wanting to play. My dog was merely curious, and wanting to play, but sometimes does not get agressive to attacking smaller dogs. The owner of the dog was unsure of this behavior also.
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Lisa Swanston wrote 05/30/2002 04:04 PM Re: Growling dogs with wagging tails [Re: Lisa Geller ] #25945 - 05/30/2002 04:04 PM
Lisa Swanston Webboard User Reg: 08-03-2001 Posts: 1588 Loc: Offline	My understanding is that a stiff wag can accompany aggression. I guess with a stub instead of a long tail, it would be hard to tell. Lisa & Lucy, CGC, Wilderness Airscent Western Oregon Search Dogs
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Richard Cannon wrote 05/30/2002 04:05 PM Re: Growling dogs with wagging tails [Re: Lisa Geller ] #25946 - 05/30/2002 04:05 PM
Richard Cannon Webboard User Reg: 07-17-2001 Posts: 1496 Loc: Offline	VVG, I would look at the vocalization first. If the tail is wagging slowly that is an added agressive signal in dogs. I wouldn't chance it with a dog that is growling. If you can't be a Good Example,then You'll just have to Serve as a Horrible Warning. Catherine Aird.
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Melissa Spindler wrote 05/30/2002 04:08 PM Re: Growling dogs with wagging tails [Re: Lisa Geller ] #25947 - 05/30/2002 04:08 PM
Melissa Spindler Webboard User Reg: 07-25-2001 Posts: 265 Loc: Offline	I've been wondering about this too. My older dog does the same thing. Every time he sees a dog or cat, he starts barking, growling, whining, & lunging like crazy, sometimes wagging his tail. He gets his hackles up too, but sometimes his behavior seems to be more out of excitement than aggression. We haven't quite figured out what his intentions are, so we just correct him for it when he does it. Melissa
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Lonny B. wrote 05/30/2002 04:10 PM Re: Growling dogs with wagging tails [Re: Lisa Geller ] #25948 - 05/30/2002 04:10 PM
Lonny B. Webboard User Reg: 07-17-2001 Posts: 704 Loc: Offline	I would say the dog was mildly play/stimulated, growling at the bigger dog because he was unsure of the situation. He has learned that growling sometimes makes big dogs go away and/or submit to him. Sounds like a classic case of little dog syndrome. I bet that this dog would most likley play once he figured out your dog was not going to attack him and just play. I personally never take the chance myself, these dogs are usually quick to snap like a twig and attack because of poor nerves, even during a play session. Seen it a million times at dog parks. Leute mögen Hunde, aber Leute LIEBEN ausgebildete Hunde!
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Lisa Geller wrote 05/30/2002 04:37 PM Re: Growling dogs with wagging tails [Re: Lisa Geller ] #25949 - 05/30/2002 04:37 PM
Lisa Geller Webboard User Reg: 03-04-2002 Posts: 122 Loc: Minneapolis Offline	Pulled away, but thought it might almost be worth letting him nip at my GSD to find another dog to run with. I was confident I could control mine from biting if it even became an issue. ??? What is it about GSD that piss off all the other dogs?
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Pete Felknor wrote 05/30/2002 04:42 PM Re: Growling dogs with wagging tails [Re: Lisa Geller ] #25950 - 05/30/2002 04:42 PM
Pete Felknor Webboard User Reg: 07-13-2001 Posts: 495 Loc: Deerfield, WI Offline	Why, VVG, it's their inordinate, unattainable majesty, of course! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Never make too much of a wagging tail. It has been pointed out that wolves' tails are in full wag when they are in the process of making a kill. Pete
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Lonny B. wrote 05/30/2002 04:56 PM Re: Growling dogs with wagging tails [Re: Lisa Geller ] #25951 - 05/30/2002 04:56 PM
Lonny B. Webboard User Reg: 07-17-2001 Posts: 704 Loc: Offline	Yeah VVG, I find the same thing when me and my dog are out.. most dogs just instantly go "On guard" the instant a GSD arives on the scene.... I will have to agree with Pete: it's their inordinate, unattainable majesty, of course! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Leute mögen Hunde, aber Leute LIEBEN ausgebildete Hunde!
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Butch Crabtree wrote 05/30/2002 07:56 PM Re: Growling dogs with wagging tails [Re: Lisa Geller ] #25952 - 05/30/2002 07:56 PM
Butch Crabtree Webboard User Reg: 01-14-2002 Posts: 966 Loc: louisiana/texas Offline	Lonny,Pete, You should she the reactions My wife and I get at the Petstore. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> She has GSD on leash and I have the Hard Headed Akita. Most poeple shy away from us. Just about all dogs do. Ref the GSD: .... I too will have to agree with Lonny and Pete: it's their inordinate, unattainable majesty, of course! Butch Crabtree kennel vom Avoyelles
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Julie Markich wrote 05/30/2002 08:06 PM Re: Growling dogs with wagging tails [Re: Lisa Geller ] #25953 - 05/30/2002 08:06 PM
Julie Markich Webboard User Reg: 09-12-2001 Posts: 127 Loc: Offline	What is it about GSD that piss off all the other dogs? ________________________________________________ I know what you mean, but at least i know what it is about mine that pisses them off, solid black staring intently at them, she thinks it will get them to play which does work with dogs that are totaly non agressive the rest just get freaked out and want to kill her, she does not notice though that they want to kill her so she would not protect herself! I have had to teach her the command "stop staring" people think im weird till their usually sweet dog gets offended and want to kill her!!! Julie
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