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#303888 - 11/21/2010 10:22 AM |
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I want to introduce a 10 week old female puppy to a 3 yr old male, The puppy is one out of a litter my female had, The male is not the father, the puppies have been around the male but one of them have been in a crate. Just wondering how I should go about it. the male hasnt shown any agressive signs towards the puppy but he is a very dominate male, I want the male to be around the mother of the puppies also, but I am leary of this also because Ike the male wants to hump on her, and she is a dominate female and is not going to tolorate it, and I'm afraid a fight will start.
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Re: introducing dogs
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Re: introducing dogs
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#303901 - 11/21/2010 01:28 PM |
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Some males or older dogs(male & female) will tollerate a young pup, but often loose patience with them as they get a bit older & may 'correct' them if allowed to be together. I personally don't allow pups with older dogs....just not worth the risk to the pup in my way of thinking.
If you really don't know what you are doing & how to control things it would be best to keep all the dogs seperated. If you have 2 dogs that you think will fight, why take the chance...keep them seperated. Vet bills are expensive, not to mention the loss of a dog or pup, due to a fight.
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Re: introducing dogs
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#303904 - 11/21/2010 02:19 PM |
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I do keep them seperated unless I am right there with the male and female, What my thought is I would like them all to tolorate each other enough so if by accident they ever get together it would not be a immediate fight. For instance a week ago my one male Ike was out side in the yard which is fenced in, my other male and female was in my kitchen which is separated by a sliding glass door. I went to the basement to put laundry in and I heard commotion up stairs.. Ike had learned to open the sliding glass door with his nose I had no Idea. I yelled no nine phui, Ike kennel. They all stopped and Ike went to his crate. Sometimes things come up that I dont foresee.I dont know wheather I got lucky or if IKE has excepted that I am the leader.I have only had him 6 months.
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Re: introducing dogs
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#303930 - 11/21/2010 07:34 PM |
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I think that you just got lucky.
I would not expect dogs that don't really get along, to get along if by accident they should find themselves together, most especially in your absence. I think that kind of thinking is a fight just waiting to happen. You have much to learn about pack structure.
Keeping dog separated means that they are kept seperate & there is NO WAY that they can accidently get to each other. If you can't do that, then you should not have dogs that don't easily get along with other dogs. It's not safe for any of the dogs.
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Re: introducing dogs
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#303957 - 11/22/2010 08:14 AM |
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This reply may very well be off topic, but the statements in this original post regarding "very dominant male" or "dominant female" brought to mind a much older post reply by Robert VanCamp & his reply which I respect & agree 100%:
Robert VanCamp
"True dominance is pretty rare in most dogs, more often what is called "dominance" is actually permissiveness on the part of the owner. Permissiveness coupled with poor handling, bad training, misuse of compulsion, and a lack of understanding of behavior is the cause of "dominance" in most cases.
Just about ANY dog on the planet will learn to take advantage of their situations. Just about any dog on the planet will react poorly in the wrong situations with the wrong owner/handler."
I agree that same sex, or dog aggressive dogs, need complete separation.
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#303965 - 11/22/2010 09:44 AM |
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Some of the old timers  that used to often post here, have many great pearls of wisdom that they have shared thru the years.
I know you are lurking out there, Robert. 
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Re: introducing dogs
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#303988 - 11/22/2010 12:12 PM |
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I think that you just got lucky.
I would not expect dogs that don't really get along, to get along if by accident they should find themselves together, most especially in your absence. I think that kind of thinking is a fight just waiting to happen. You have much to learn about pack structure.
Keeping dog separated means that they are kept seperate & there is NO WAY that they can accidently get to each other. If you can't do that, then you should not have dogs that don't easily get along with other dogs. It's not safe for any of the dogs.
I just want to reinforce that "separated" doesn't mean "when I remember" or "when I'm careful."
" If you can't do that, then you should not have dogs that don't easily get along with other dogs. It's not safe for any of the dogs."
And maybe you can't do that -- the only shame would be in not acknowledging it, backing up, and changing the situation.
Your posts over time have made it very apparent that you know little about pack structure. This too is nothing to be embarrassed or ashamed about, and everyone had to have started out knowing zero about it, but it does mean that a pack of dogs in your care is almost surely going to require full-time ironclad separation.
I am being so blunt because I know you know that this is about the dogs' well-being.
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Re: introducing dogs
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#304382 - 11/24/2010 02:35 PM |
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It is not that I dont know about pack structure, it is that I don't agree with everything that is said here. I have had gsd, dobs, rotts,over the last 35yrs and never have had a fight. When I am not here they are SEPARATED! When I am home, I have let male and female together and both males together, The adult dogs know fighting is not permitted and they do respect me. I do agree 100% with Ann that puppies should not be introduced to adult dogs because they would annoy most adult dogs and there is no reason that I need to do that. I know alot of people on here think you should keep dogs separated because they will get more attached to the other dog rather than the person. I don't believe in that to be true, unless the person has a piss poor relationship with their dogs. I also know everyone is entitled to their opinion and I can respect that. Thanks for your input and opinion though, I do appreciate it.
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Re: introducing dogs
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#304403 - 11/24/2010 04:43 PM |
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Debbie, if you knew as much about pack structure practices as you claim you do...you would not be asking some of the very basic questions that you ask about owning multiple dogs.
Your dogs would be best served being kept seperate for their safety & yours.
There are dogs that no mater how much you want them to get along, they NEVER will. Seperation practices are something that dog owners have to accept in living with multiple dogs that do not get along. Fights are very costly both for the dogs & for the owners. It's just not worth taking a chance of that happenting IMO.
And I have lived with 3 dogs that did not get along. Just may be a fact of life if you want more than 1 dog.
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