I thought my dog was hard to teach out!!! I have a question... Why do you use good instead of yes when he finally does out? Have you tried using food as the "reward"? This is how I taught my dog to out and later after she learned it I started rewarding her with the toy. Just wondering...
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Im sure Ana will comment but i would think if she is using yes as her marker, and marked after the dog outted the dog would go for another bite, because that is what the reward is in this case. Good would re-enforce ok you did what i wanted but no reward yet.
Great video looks like your both having a lot of fun looks like the guy that walked behind you started walking a little faster when he saw what you were doing lol
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YES means release - Ok to re-bite the tug. Because Haydn is very strong it is very difficult for me to immobilize the tug, have to hold my hands on either side of his mouth. If he re-bites immediately he'll get my hands. Need time to move my hands on the tug and get off my knees.
This maybe not the best way to do it. Got to watch tug DVD again.
YES would have reinforced him better and I would love to release him immediately but that was the best I could do.
When I let him 'win' the tug, I walk him in big circles, briskly. At some point he'll finally drop the tug, at which point I would mark with a yes and say 'out'! After a bunch of those he made the connection that out meant drop it. THEN after he would reliably drop it on command, I tried the out while tugging. I think he's too drivey while tugging to 'get it' yet. Try teaching the out just while holding the tug in his mouth without you actually tugging on the other end.
I noticed in the video that you continue to create pressure on the tug after asking for the out. This is evidenced by the way I see you bending the tug towards you, and you tend to lean back to keep your balance which creates pressure. Don't do that.
Try a stance with both feet parallel and legs bent at the knees. Keep your feet just far enough apart to be able to keep each hand on a knee if your holding the tug from either end. Don't move the tug at all. If you've only done this twice, hopefully it won't be to hard to fix or teach correct.
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Michael, that's exactly what I would like to do. Haydn toppled me every time. I'll try again this evening, maybe this time I won't plow into the wet dirty grass nose first
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I used a similar method to Ana, I would say "out" hold the tug still which is what Ana said she had trouble with, when the dog let go I would mark "yes" and let her bite again. After she understood, when she outted i would say "good" which she knew meant ok that was right but i don't get the tug yet. The anticipation of getting to bite helped build more drive, and not feel like the game was over when she let go.
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