So I have a 10 month old GSD puppy that was amazingly crate trained when I first got her. No accidents from 8 weeks until she came down with Parvo at 12 weeks. Since the Parvo, she pees in her crate. It seems to occur more in the mornings than any other time. I never had this much trouble training my 2 year old GSD that was a horrible puppy and would pee in her crate ALL the time till she was 5 months.
I have tried the following:
1. Holding water at night
2. Waking up in the middle of the night to let her out
3. Keeping her out till late at night and letting her out super early in the morning
4. Keeping the crate, her and surrounding area clean at all times.
HELP! I am at wits end. This is getting ridiculous. I work extremely early in the mornings and can't be cleaning a crate, floor, and dog every single day before I leave.
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Quote: Aaron Myracle
When you take her out, what are you doing?
My question too. Detailed.
But also, please try to step back and realize that this is (somewhere) handler error, and that we/you can fix it. The dog is not trying to frustrate you. I know you know this, and it's hard to remember because it's so frustrating, so I'm just reminding you. (Sure, easy to say from here where I'm not cleaning crates, I know .... )
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So no matter how early you let her out in the morning, she has already pee'd in her crate when you go to let her out?
Where is the crate located in relation to where you sleep?
Is it only first thing in the morning, or does it occur at other times throughout the day? Can you make any connections between what is happening at those times? Is anything similar, like time spent in the crate, or cat naps on the crate at those times everyday (I know, but my cats do this. Dogs don't care, but maybe yours does)
Wow a lot of questions to answer. Ok as far as where she sleeps in relation to my room: my master bedroom is located downstairs and her crate is by the back yard sliding door in the dining room. She only pees in the mornings but never has an accident throughout the day even if I'm gone all day. When I let her out she goes straight into the yard and pees again with a "go potty" command and gets rewarded for going with praise. Then she moves into her outdoor kennel. She is brought in whenever I leave during the day and like I said late at night around 10-11pm and let back out usually around 5 am. If I bring her in early, say around 9pm, I let her out middle of the night around 2 am. Most of the time its a little pee puddle (well little for a gsd) and then she pees again when let out.
I 100% agree that most things are handler error and would love to implement any suggestions you guys have.
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How excited is she getting when you get up to let her out?
When you said that she only has a little pee puddle if you get up to let her out, it makes me think she may be having an accident out of excitement.
When she doesn't get out during the night, her accident is probably bigger because she has a much more full bladder. But if she goes as soon as you let her out, it may be that she can't help the accidents yet.
So what is her morning behavior like? Excited, jumping, barking or whining when you get up to let her out? Or is she pretty calm and just standing there waiting patiently?
In the morning she whines which is usually my trigger to get up even if the early morning alarm hasn't gone off. She isn't usually excited, just stands there...she acts more embarrassed/ shamed/ upset over the accident than excited. She has never piddled out of excitement either when people pet her etc.
I NEVER yell at her over the incident and just ignore it and let her out. It's super weird because I feel I am doing everything right but it's not getting any better....but it's not getting any worse either. Totally weird right?!? I was thinking maybe she has a weak bladder but like I said, no accidents during the day. Someone mentioned a cat....maybe that's what doing it. My cat sleeps with me and he wakes up and starts purring and rubbing on me about the same time the Raya (the 10th month puppy) starts moving around. Do you think maybe she can hear the cat and that triggers the peeing?
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