Julie Sloan wrote 01/21/2011 05:25 PM Giardia testing methods #312846 - 01/21/2011 05:25 PM
Julie Sloan Webboard User Reg: 10-12-2010 Posts: 510 Loc: Offline	What different kinds of RELIABLE testing methods are there for giarda?
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Betty Landercasp wrote 01/21/2011 06:09 PM Re: Giardia testing methods [Re: Julie Sloan ] #312855 - 01/21/2011 06:09 PM
Betty Landercasp Webboard User Reg: 11-30-2009 Posts: 3724 Loc: minnesota Offline	I think there is an Elisa test, an immunologic test of the feces, it lights up with antibody if the agent is present (I could be wrong on this for sure) We used to float the stool with zinc sulfate and find it. It has a little face, you can't mis-diagnose it if you see it. Sometimes you can see them swimming on a direct fecal smear. The trouble is, sometimes you don't see it,sometimes the agent is not being "shed". Practically, we used to treat if symptoms merited treatment -- Flagyl often, or if the animal was very large (so the Flagyl would be mega-bucks)we would administer to dewormer Panacur.It was pretty easy to treat IME http://s922.photobucket.com/albums/ad67/Grasvaly/
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/21/2011 06:46 PM Re: Giardia testing methods [Re: Julie Sloan ] #312856 - 01/21/2011 06:46 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Edited by Connie Sutherland (01/21/2011 07:12 PM) Edit reason: etas
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/21/2011 07:11 PM Re: Giardia testing methods [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #312860 - 01/21/2011 07:11 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Title: A comparison of the SNAP® Giardia fecal antigen test and the zinc sulfate double centrifugation fecal flotation procedure to diagnose Giardia intestinalis infections in two populations of infected dogs "Studies were conducted to compare the zinc sulfate double centrifuge fecal flotation to the SNAP (registered trademark) Giardia fecal ELISA test manufactured by IDEXX laboratories Inc. in purpose bred beagles and shelter and commercial kennel dogs. In these evaluations the zinc sulfate double centrifuge fecal flotation and fecal ELISA test performed similarly .... There was an increase in number of positive animals identified when 3 consecutive daily samples were evaluated as compared to any one individual day for either test method." http://krex.k-state.edu/dspace/handle/2097/2323
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phaedra rieff wrote 01/21/2011 08:21 PM Re: Giardia testing methods [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #312868 - 01/21/2011 08:21 PM
phaedra rieff Webboard User Reg: 07-15-2010 Posts: 741 Loc: bc, canada Offline	We always send Giardia suspects to the lab... to hard to find.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/21/2011 09:33 PM Re: Giardia testing methods [Re: phaedra rieff ] #312870 - 01/21/2011 09:33 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: phaedra rieff We always send Giardia suspects to the lab... to hard to find. Which test is done there?
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Betty Landercasp wrote 01/21/2011 09:38 PM Re: Giardia testing methods [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #312871 - 01/21/2011 09:38 PM
Betty Landercasp Webboard User Reg: 11-30-2009 Posts: 3724 Loc: minnesota Offline	In my day, it was "The Lab" at "The U" and we assumed their verdict was "The Answer"!! http://s922.photobucket.com/albums/ad67/Grasvaly/
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Betty Landercasp wrote 01/21/2011 09:42 PM Re: Giardia testing methods [Re: Betty Landercasp ] #312872 - 01/21/2011 09:42 PM
Betty Landercasp Webboard User Reg: 11-30-2009 Posts: 3724 Loc: minnesota Offline	Why not just treat for it if you suspect it? Then the problem is solved. Why spend money on diagnostic tests when you can spend the money on a fix? The medicine is not real toxic, and if you've treated for it you've ruled it out as a problem, if the problem is still there,then you have to look for something else to treat. Just a question... http://s922.photobucket.com/albums/ad67/Grasvaly/
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phaedra rieff wrote 01/21/2011 09:55 PM Re: Giardia testing methods [Re: Betty Landercasp ] #312877 - 01/21/2011 09:55 PM
phaedra rieff Webboard User Reg: 07-15-2010 Posts: 741 Loc: bc, canada Offline	Well, most people around here want "answers". Also, I guess sometimes there are several possibilities. Some people don't mind to spend the money, and/or don't want to give necessary meds?
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/21/2011 10:03 PM Re: Giardia testing methods [Re: phaedra rieff ] #312878 - 01/21/2011 10:03 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	"We always send Giardia suspects to the lab... most people around here want "answers"." What test does the lab do? I'm really asking. The SNAP® Giardia fecal antigen test? Or the zinc sulfate double centrifugation fecal flotation procedure? If the lab does the ELISA test, then aren't we seeing that it might be possible to do better? If the lab does the three-sample-48-hours-apart fecal, then aren't we seeing that it might be possible to do better? LOL There doesn't seem to be across-the-board agreement as to clear superiority. So I'm curious what test you are sending the samples to the lab for. What material are you sending?
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