Dana Martin wrote 02/16/2011 03:47 PM Calcium supplement.... #316932 - 02/16/2011 03:47 PM
Dana Martin Webboard User Reg: 09-13-2010 Posts: 790 Loc: Bothell, WA Offline	Ok, so my mini-mal could be a taste tester for the Queen, I think. I'm trying to add a powdered calcium supplement to JD's diet (very, very small amount, maybe 1/2 tsp) and he's turning his nose up at it - even with the salmon oil added as well. Anyone have any suggestions about what I can do to make it more palatable? Can I mix it with hot water or something first? Any and all suggestions very greatly accepted!!! Thanks, Dana Here Decoy, Decoy, Decoy!
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Connie Sutherland wrote 02/16/2011 03:57 PM Re: Calcium supplement.... [Re: Dana Martin ] #316935 - 02/16/2011 03:57 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31580 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Dana Martin I'm trying to add a powdered calcium supplement to JD's diet (very, very small amount, maybe 1/2 tsp) Thanks, Dana Why? Did I forget something? Is he on homemade boneless? PS 1/2 teaspoon, depending on the type, isn't a very small amount. If it's say, eggshell, then it's enough to cover a whole pound of boneless food. As far as taste goes, it has virtually none. What form is it? Some kind of flavored something?
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Dana Martin wrote 02/16/2011 04:04 PM Re: Calcium supplement.... [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #316939 - 02/16/2011 04:04 PM
Dana Martin Webboard User Reg: 09-13-2010 Posts: 790 Loc: Bothell, WA Offline	No, he's on TOTW Salmon - both kibble and canned combined. It's a steamed bone meal and according to it's instructions he should be getting 1 1/2 tsp for his weight. I know, I know, I should have asked here first. He toes out in the front and I guess I thought this might somehow help as he continues to grow. Please, Connie.....give me your words of wisdom (good or bad) Thanks! Dana eta: It isn't flavored and I think it's the texture he's balking at. I've had this trouble with anything I've tried to add to his diet for any reason (any vitamin supplement, anytyhing except salmon oil). Here Decoy, Decoy, Decoy!
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Connie Sutherland wrote 02/16/2011 04:30 PM Re: Calcium supplement.... [Re: Dana Martin ] #316945 - 02/16/2011 04:30 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31580 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	What instructions? Instructions on the bone meal? No commercial dog food should have calcium added. They are already supplemented. No proper raw diet (based on RMBs) should have calcium supplements added. The only diet that needs calcium supplementation is a boneless cooked or boneless raw homemade diet. Even a diet low in digestible bone for one reason or another needs CAREFUL calcium supplementation, figured for the amount of the diet that is deficient. Too much calcium is no better than too little. And if you did need to add calcium supplements, bone meal is personally my very last choice because of its unpredictable amount of phosphorus content.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 02/16/2011 04:34 PM Re: Calcium supplement.... [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #316947 - 02/16/2011 04:34 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31580 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	PS Minerals are not like water-soluble vitamins (which are flushed away if eaten in excess). They are not even like fat-soluble vitamins. Most are called "trace," and for a good reason. It's hard to cause a problem with minerals "on the hoof" (as they come in food), but easy to cause a toxicity problem via supplementation. Even calcium, which dogs use a lot of (to the tune of about 900 mg per pound of food), has a range that shouldn't be ignored. In addition, the calcium:phosphorus ratio (which we talk about a lot here) is probably the most critical factor (after protein) in a dog's diet. eta Bone meal also often contains heavy metals, including mercury, cadmium, and lead. Edited by Connie Sutherland (02/16/2011 04:44 PM) Edit reason: eta
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Dana Martin wrote 02/16/2011 05:45 PM Re: Calcium supplement.... [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #316954 - 02/16/2011 05:45 PM
Dana Martin Webboard User Reg: 09-13-2010 Posts: 790 Loc: Bothell, WA Offline	Thanks, Connie. As I said, I knew I should have asked here first And out goes the bone meal.... Here Decoy, Decoy, Decoy!
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Dana Martin wrote 02/16/2011 05:54 PM Re: Calcium supplement.... [Re: Dana Martin ] #316958 - 02/16/2011 05:54 PM
Dana Martin Webboard User Reg: 09-13-2010 Posts: 790 Loc: Bothell, WA Offline	And I now feel like a real idiot about this... Won't someone please delete this post like it never exhisted???? Here Decoy, Decoy, Decoy!
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Connie Sutherland wrote 02/16/2011 06:13 PM Re: Calcium supplement.... [Re: Dana Martin ] #316959 - 02/16/2011 06:13 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31580 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	No no. You don't want to do that! Calcium over- and under-feeding is one of the most common errors made by dog owners! The nutritional tragedy of a boneless-meat diet is probably the most common, but still -- calcium is at the heart of a lot of serious diet errors. So (IMHO), the more threads about calcium for dogs, the better. You are not alone, believe me!
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Dana Martin wrote 02/16/2011 08:52 PM Re: Calcium supplement.... [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #316982 - 02/16/2011 08:52 PM
Dana Martin Webboard User Reg: 09-13-2010 Posts: 790 Loc: Bothell, WA Offline	Thanks, Connie. You've made me feel a little less like a moron Here Decoy, Decoy, Decoy!
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Barbara Schuler wrote 02/16/2011 08:56 PM Re: Calcium supplement.... [Re: Dana Martin ] #316984 - 02/16/2011 08:56 PM
Barbara Schuler Webboard User Reg: 01-15-2009 Posts: 5090 Loc: Lanexa Virginia Offline	We are all here to learn Dana, and it is always good when we "err" on the side of trying to take care of our dogs and be good owners.
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