Met my maybe new vet but not sure yet.

I had a major LROF in her face about raw food.
So my dog is ok to be in contact with live chicken (one place where I teach) and snatch a egg or some chicken poop as there is no slamonela risk there.
But no way is a raw diet safe.
That got me going madly, no self control at all!

Good. A good embarrassing guffaw maybe reaches where calm reason can't! LOL


Did you mention snacking from the kitty litter box too?

LOL

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Good. A good embarrassing guffaw maybe reaches where calm reason can't! LOL


Did you mention snacking from the kitty litter box too?

LOL

And munching on "road apples"?

I have all of the same. Sept the eggs... don't let her get them first Drives me up the wall though to have her eating "junk food" (thats what I named chicken and kitten dumplings) and kissing me. YUCK!

"chicken and kitten dumplings"

Hahahahah!!!! Reminds me of a vet I used once. When he found ot I switched to raw, he gave me this long lecture of the risks of salmonilia etc. I politely commented it was human grade foods he was getting, still no let up. My final comment was" so you are telling me that a dog that eats turds, buries a dead animal and eats it a week later, licks his butt and other animals butts, is going to get salmonilia from human grade chicken, beef?" I switched to using his wife who was from asia. She thought it was cool and commented frequently how good my dog looked.

The weirdest raw comment I ever got was after taking Nico for a check-up. The previous time the vet had seen her she was nearly hairless, itchy and smelly. Three months after switching to raw I took a shiny healthy fully coated happy dog for a check-up.

He looked me straight in the face and said "It may be really good for her coat, but we don't know what it is doing inside"

I just went to a conference in Minneapolis. There was a talk on raw feeding.
It was NOT put on by a vet or a dog food group, it was from epidemiologists
at the Board of Animal Health.
It seems that pets fed raw can, in fact, pick up and transmit via the feces Salmonella, E. Coli, toxoplasmosis and Giardia. Only very, very rarely do the dogs become ill---but the people occasionally become ill from handling the feces.
It seems that the food industry (packing plants) really count on humans cooking the food -- there's quite a bit of Salmonella in the water in the cooling vats for chicken, for example. E. Coli in undercooked burger is well known.
It was recommended that people rinse super well raw food. Try to avoid cheap hamburger. Freezing does not in fact kill bacteria, just slows its growth. If giardia is a recurrant problem, it was recommended that the source of the raw food be changed.
No one said that raw was bad, in fact it's benefits were celebrated. But acid stomachs and short GI tracts do not a sterile stool make, so folks with little kids
or possibly depressed immune systems are supposed to keep that in mind.

"so folks with little kids or possibly depressed immune systems are supposed to keep that in mind."

Yes .... no matter what the dog is fed.

In all circumstances, keep dog poop out of your mouth and your kids' mouths. (Of course, this includes via transmission by the hand.) Don't let the dog french kiss you, fresh from licking his butt, either.

Dogs eat poop from other animals and really grungy old rotten roadkill. They treat the litter box as a buffet.

Kibble is recalled for salmonella and E. coli.


It's good that it wasn't reviled for carrying diseases, but not so good that it seems to have been singled out as the only feeding protocol that results in poop that we should not handle or let kids handle with bare hands.

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.... No one said that raw was bad, in fact it's benefits were celebrated.

Amazing and WONDERFUL!

Were you surprised?