 Other options to correct for barking
#317106 - 02/17/2011 01:51 PM |
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I had wanted very badly to get an e-collar for Zuki... I also had wanted DVD's so when I put the order in to see how much it would be it came to about $600  There was no way I could spend that much right now so I decided on a three DVD set.
Problem is I had wanted Zuki to bark and now she has learned and I would like her not to  I don't know what to do. She seems to like the sound of her voice and barks at nothing. I have not tried to correct it except telling her no but it does no good. I have not done anything else cause I don't really know what would be affective other than an e-collar.I have her loose almost half the day, we play, and we train. When she is not loose Most of the time she is sleeping but at different moments she will decide to bark.
Thanks in advance for the advice 
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Re: Other options to correct for barking
[Re: Elizabeth Anderson ]
#317112 - 02/17/2011 02:09 PM |
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I would teach no-bark.
"Problem is I had wanted Zuki to bark and now she has learned and I would like her not to"
Yes. This board often mentions "be careful what you wish for" about teaching bark. Barking is one of those self-rewarding behaviors; ignoring it so it will extinguish often doesn't work.
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Re: Other options to correct for barking
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#317187 - 02/17/2011 05:57 PM |
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Jethro provides unwanted barking for us, too.
I have found one useful response is to make him tag along with me as I do household tasks (on leash) - he has to Sit, then Down, and Settle where ever I am working and then get up to move, over and over. Within a short time he is ready to go to his crate for a lie down and no barking.
The other remedy I am using, if I just want to sit quietly in my livingroom and not be alerted to every passing moth, is having him in a Down right at my feet. I've taught him Settle (which means resting his chin on the floor). When he is in a Settle, he just can't get much satisfaction from barking and he is quiet. It was super easy to teach with treats and the clicker. He gives me a Settle just about anywhere I put him in a Down (crate, crate in car, front door, front porch, soccer field, etc.)
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Re: Other options to correct for barking
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#317200 - 02/17/2011 06:14 PM |
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To teach her a no bark or quiet command, you're probably going to need to correct her Elizabeth. I would put a nylon or regular choke chain on and when she barks, tighten it up. Give your command and reward any quiet right away. Then start adding duration to the quiet with goooood,,,,, and a No or Nope if she does bark.
Its just like any other obedience. Don't pop her because that can make her more excited, and don't try to choke her, you really only need to interrupt it so you can make clear the quiet is what you want.
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Re: Other options to correct for barking
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#317207 - 02/17/2011 06:31 PM |
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I find clicking the Quiet is good too, so in the moment between the bark, getting in a click and giving a treat - it seems to interrupt Jethro's train of thought and he leaves off the barking for clicks and treats. And I throw in a Quieeeet as he gets the treat.
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Re: Other options to correct for barking
[Re: Jenny Arntzen ]
#317218 - 02/17/2011 07:01 PM |
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Problem is she NEVER barks when I could correct. How do you teach a "no bark"? reward in between barks?
I like your idea, Jenny, of making her go everywhere with me... I think that could make her tired! I almost never sit still for more than a few min 
She doesn't bark when she is in her crate but I don't like having her in it for hours on end because it is a little small.
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Re: Other options to correct for barking
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#317221 - 02/17/2011 07:14 PM |
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I would teach no-bark.
"Problem is I had wanted Zuki to bark and now she has learned and I would like her not to"
Yes. This board often mentions "be careful what you wish for" about teaching bark. Barking is one of those self-rewarding behaviors; ignoring it so it will extinguish often doesn't work.
I agree. When JD is told to "zip-it" (insert laughing at the funny command here ) he is rewarded for being quiet.
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Re: Other options to correct for barking
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#317239 - 02/17/2011 08:22 PM |
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I have found trying to correct the behaviour exhausting and barely effective. Because he barks when I don't expect it, I'm usually in the other room and he has gotten off my radar screen because he was so quiet.
I did use a correction last night, but I don't recommend it unless you know your dog really well. Once again, I was caught by surprise with Jethro up on the couch barking like a maddog at someone passing on the sidewalk. I admit, I was a little tired of his shenanigans. He had on his indoor leash, I basically threw myself at him, taking his leash and kind of tumbling with him onto the floor, landing full on top of him. He lay there quiet while I got off of him but kept his head pinned to the floor with the leash. As I released tension on the leash and he stayed there (in a Settle), I said, in a bright cheery voice, This Way! and led him straight to his crate. He settled down after that and left me alone for awhile. Ah.
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Re: Other options to correct for barking
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#317241 - 02/17/2011 08:31 PM |
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...I basically threw myself at him, taking his leash and kind of tumbling with him onto the floor, landing full on top of him. He lay there quiet while I got off of him but kept his head pinned to the floor with the leash. As I released tension on the leash and he stayed there (in a Settle), I said, in a bright cheery voice, This Way! and led him straight to his crate. He settled down after that and left me alone for awhile. Ah. What a new and interesting way to correct a dog! Chokers are very old school. Perhaps I should try this when my dogs start barking
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Re: Other options to correct for barking
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#317243 - 02/17/2011 08:37 PM |
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I basically threw myself at him, taking his leash and kind of tumbling with him onto the floor, landing full on top of him. He lay there quiet while I got off of him but kept his head pinned to the floor with the leash. As I released tension on the leash and he stayed there (in a Settle), I said, in a bright cheery voice, This Way! and led him straight to his crate. He settled down after that and left me alone for awhile. Ah.
Ummmm... okay. This one might be hard to replicate if he is ever barking outside and you want him to stop. 
I understand the frustration of a barking dog - really.
Ideally, we are training for a desired behavior or for stopping an unwanted behavior.... training. Training. (No ambushing allowed.)
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