Does the dominant dog collar when used as a backup have any effect on the intensity of a prong collar correction?
I'm considering buying one because sometimes when my dog shakes the water out of her coat her prong slips out of the leash clasp. I've had this happen with several different leather leashes (one of them was a leerburg leash) so I know its not the leash itself.
The scary part is that I think she may have figured out that she can shake the leash off. When its happened I have been able to recall her immediately, but cat season is coming up and I don't want to take any chances !
I haven't used a DD collar personally, but I think if it's fit correctly (high, and snug) it would only tighten and release with a leash correction. It's so small I can't see it interfering with a prong, but yes, it would 'correct' when you put pressure on the leash.
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As a backup, it would be better if its long enough that it doesnt correct at all. Its only in case the prong comes apart. If you keep it up high on the neck, it can get under the prong and wrapped into the prongs. Its better down low on the neck and not really doing anything.
I was kinda wondering about that, after I submitted my post.... If you use you prong on the live ring, it's going to have a couple inches of slack to pick up before a correction. In that case, a 'properly' fitted DD collar would prevent the prong from tightening all the way.
When I use the two (prong and DD) together, I have the DD collar MUCH longer than one I would have for a correction. For example Caterina normally wears a 15" for correction, but I use a 22" on her for the prong back up. The back up collar lies low enough on the neck that it doesn't interfere with the prong.
Edited by Kelly (02/17/2011 06:27 PM)
Edit reason: clarification
Would it be completely innapropriate to use it as an obedience collar?
I'm curious because we have worked really hard on dog reactivity and things are going good, but there have been a few instances that I have needed to correct her for something (usually just being a lunkhead) and had her blow up on another dog because of the prong.
My timing with an ecollar needs lots of work, so that is out for leash walks. And a buckle collar correction just isn't enough in a high distraction situation.
Because of this have thought about switching to a choke chain but I really don't want to, and I don't trust typical nylon obedience collars with her because of the chew factor.
I dunt understand.
How does a dog shake off a leash clipped to a collar?
The safety collar (the dd collar) is clipped to the same leash clasp as your pinch collar. If you're losing the hold on one you're going to lose the hold on the other if the clasp on the leash doesn't hold.
More over when using the live ring the safety collar's lenght should be long enough so as not have any correction at all unless the pinch becomes seperated (opened) and rendering it useless.
But my confussion remains. How does a dog shake off a leash?
I dunt understand.
How does a dog shake off a leash clipped to a collar?
The safety collar (the dd collar) is clipped to the same leash clasp as your pinch collar. If you're losing the hold on one you're going to lose the hold on the other if the clasp on the leash doesn't hold.
The backup collar is for use in case the prong opens up for some reason. I've seen them come off more than once, taking the leash with them. The backup DD collar is attached to the leash and stays on the dog if the prong breaks or opens up.
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