Brittinay Adair wrote 03/02/2011 02:01 PM Help my Baby #319612 - 03/02/2011 02:01 PM
Brittinay Adair Webboard User Reg: 03-02-2011 Posts: 5 Loc: Wa, US Offline	I have a 9 month old baby boy. We moved into a new place with some friends and they have a full blooded Alaskan Malamute. It's a full grown dog and quite large. The dog started out growling when the baby came near her at all, but we would just move the baby and no one bothered it. About 3 weeks ago I had gone into another room for a moment and the baby started screaming. The dog had snapped and bitten him in the face. The baby is ok now and the dog has been removed from the house. The issues is now my roommates want to bring the dog back...and i'm scared that the baby will get really really hurt next time.How do I protect my baby from this dog? Is it a good idea to bring the dog back into this home? Mama of One: 06/06/10 - Bradley adair
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steve strom wrote 03/02/2011 02:04 PM Re: Help my Baby [Re: Brittinay Adair ] #319614 - 03/02/2011 02:04 PM
steve strom Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2006 Posts: 4203 Loc: Offline	No. Unless you move out.
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Niomi Smith wrote 03/02/2011 02:08 PM Re: Help my Baby [Re: Brittinay Adair ] #319615 - 03/02/2011 02:08 PM
Niomi Smith Webboard User Reg: 04-20-2009 Posts: 786 Loc: Whitehorse, Yukon Offline	It depends if you and your room mate can commit to a 100% separation schedule, otherwise re-home the dog. (The latter is the choice I would take if I were you, as there is clearly no understanding of dog behavior and leadership, rules and boundaries in this house) So, first off, you NEVER leave your kid with any dog, not even your own, unattended, even for a second. Next. this dog must be crated (or otherwise reliably confined) and only let out when the baby is asleep or otherwise away from the home. And of course, you need to tell your room mate to pull her head out of her a$$ and work this dog. You can print the groundwork article from here as your info. This dog is not safe around any kids, so he should be separated from them completely. This is an owner issue, not a dog issue, this person needs to step up and procide the dog with what it needs.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 03/02/2011 02:09 PM Re: Help my Baby [Re: Brittinay Adair ] #319616 - 03/02/2011 02:09 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Move out TODAY unless you KNOW the dog will not be back. This is seriously ignorant and irresponsible of the dog's owners not to "get" a warning like that. eta Nothing based on the O.P. says that Niomi's excellent suggestions would be followed. I am sticking with what I posted.
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Michael_Wise wrote 03/02/2011 02:11 PM Re: Help my Baby [Re: steve strom ] #319617 - 03/02/2011 02:11 PM
Michael_Wise Webboard User Reg: 07-10-2006 Posts: 4454 Loc: Arkansas Offline	Get out. Your kid already got bit. At best, serious disfigurement. At worst, your kid gets killed. Yes, I intentionally removed all the sugar off that post. Your child is in danger. Big time.
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Barbara Schuler wrote 03/02/2011 02:11 PM Re: Help my Baby [Re: Brittinay Adair ] #319618 - 03/02/2011 02:11 PM
Barbara Schuler Webboard User Reg: 01-15-2009 Posts: 5090 Loc: Lanexa Virginia Offline	Brittinay, The ONLY solution is for this child and dog to not be in the same house. Period. You have been given one "I'm warning you" from this dog, and you've been given the second "I don't care" warning from your friends. (It is their house and their dog, so I can't really fault them). Please forgive my bluntness, but if you elect to stay in that house with that dog, you are putting your child in grave danger. Please do not do so. Find another place to live and let these friends go back to living their life with their dog - who should NOT be around any children. Obviously we are all posting at the same time - this is serious and you should not mess around with this situation.
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Jenny Arntzen wrote 03/02/2011 02:30 PM Re: Help my Baby [Re: Barbara Schuler ] #319625 - 03/02/2011 02:30 PM
Jenny Arntzen Webboard User Reg: 12-06-2010 Posts: 721 Loc: British Columbia, Canada Offline	I'm surprised you have to ask this question. It shows that you don't understand the gravity of your situation. And neither do your friends. The amount of management and handling protocols that would be required to begin to make it safe for children to be in proximity to this dog are clearly beyond the capabilities of your collective knowledge and skills. You are not only putting your child in danger by bringing the dog back into the household, you are putting the dog's life at risk as well, because if there is another incident (and there will be) the dog will, in all likelihood, have to be put down. The dog must be rehomed or you must move out. In the meantime, the dog must not be brought back into the house while you are there with your baby. Don't be surprised if your son develops a phobia about dogs. He has already been traumatized.
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Betty Landercasp wrote 03/02/2011 03:20 PM Re: Help my Baby [Re: Jenny Arntzen ] #319638 - 03/02/2011 03:20 PM
Betty Landercasp Webboard User Reg: 11-30-2009 Posts: 3724 Loc: minnesota Offline	Alaskan Malamutes have one of the worst reputations in the deaths of infants. http://s922.photobucket.com/albums/ad67/Grasvaly/
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Kiersten Lippman wrote 03/02/2011 03:47 PM Re: Help my Baby [Re: Betty Landercasp ] #319642 - 03/02/2011 03:47 PM
Kiersten Lippman Webboard User Reg: 09-28-2009 Posts: 487 Loc: Alaska Offline	The sound of a baby's cry is similar to that of many prey animals. This can trigger predator behavior in certain dogs. Predatory behavior is further provoked by the way babies tend to jerk their arms and legs around- again, further imitating a prey animal. A large, powerful dog like a malamute can do deadly damage in a few seconds. That means the dog would grab the baby by the neck, shake, and break the baby's back or pierce the baby's skull with his canines. I just want to emphasize how quickly this can happen. I'm talking literally five to ten seconds. If this were my baby I would move out. If this were my dog, with this history, I would not risk the dog's life by having a baby in the house unless I was committed to total seperation and further training. Don't be under the illusion that a dog understands 'cute' or 'helpless'. Wolves kill and eat 'cute' baby deer, bison, and elk without a thought for cuteness. http://skiersten1.wix.com/perfect-storm-k9
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Connie Sutherland wrote 03/02/2011 03:56 PM Re: Help my Baby [Re: Kiersten Lippman ] #319643 - 03/02/2011 03:56 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Kiersten Lippman The sound of a baby's cry is similar to that of many prey animals. This can trigger predator behavior in certain dogs. Predatory behavior is further provoked by the way babies tend to jerk their arms and legs around- again, further imitating a prey animal. A large, powerful dog like a malamute can do deadly damage in a few seconds. That means the dog would grab the baby by the neck, shake, and break the baby's back or pierce the baby's skull with his canines. I just want to emphasize how quickly this can happen. I'm talking literally five to ten seconds. If this were my baby I would move out. If this were my dog, with this history, I would not risk the dog's life by having a baby in the house unless I was committed to total seperation and further training. Don't be under the illusion that a dog understands 'cute' or 'helpless'. Wolves kill and eat 'cute' baby deer, bison, and elk without a thought for cuteness. I hope that the O.P. is aware of the deadly seriousness of these replies. These are replies from dog-experienced people, Brittinay. I hope you will share this with the dog's owners, who are risking so much by remaining ignorant. (But sharing this info comes second to moving out.) JMO
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