 Hey .... newbie teenage girl!
#323608 - 03/24/2011 05:51 PM |
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Hi everyone,
I'm the new girl from the UK!! I'm only 15 - but have a passion for dog training/handling. I used to compete in agility with my poodle, lab cross (labradoodle, mutt, whatever!!)
I have trained her completely myself - she's very good at obedience as well.
I hope to gain info from this site as well as give a little. When I leave school next year I want to pursue a career in either dog psychology OR police/security dog training.
My dog is the friendliest dog, but she has shown a slight protective side a few times (when walking and I was approched by strange men) nothing major, but a little growl.
Her size intimidates people more than her bite!
I don't know if I'm posting in the right place, but I'm new to this. Is there a good way to teach a bark? She barks, but not in a threatening manner. I would like to train a little protection work, but not a lot - as I don't think it's in her breed to do it!
Thanks for any advice
Monique
PS: This is a ppic of my dog Tilly.
http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z422/Tillytubbie/beach250211005.jpg
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#323610 - 03/24/2011 06:14 PM |
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Welcome to the forum Mon! Tillie is a beautiful gal and I'm sure she is a bit intimidating just by her size. 
Are you familiar with Marker Training? There is a free ebook on this site explaining how to get started and that will help you train Tillie just about anything you can imagine. I think if you work on getting her to bark and growl on command, you will probably have all the "deterring" you need!  Protection work is a whole different ball of wax and I'll leave that to the folks who are experienced in that venue, but I can tell you most dogs are not cut out for "real" protection work.
Is Tillie the dog you worked with in agility?
Again, welcome to the forum!
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Re: Hey .... newbie teenage girl!
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#323612 - 03/24/2011 06:34 PM |
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If she barks at all, you can teach her to bark on command.
Check out the marker training e-book like Barbara said.
It's a case of "capturing" a behavior. In this case, waiting until she's barking, and marking/rewarding it.
Try training some simpler commands with markers first, so she understands how the game works.
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#323691 - 03/24/2011 11:46 PM |
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Barking can easily be taught by frustrating the dog.
Stand on opposite sides of a gate or fence, in a crate,etc and show the dog it's favorite toy or treat. Tease it a bit and the frustration will get the barking going. Mark and reward!
When it really starts to understand what's going on just put a command to it.
One of my GSDS will bark with a word command and also by hand signal. I just "pinch" my thumb and index finger together like a bird eating.
Anything will work. That's just what I use for my dog.
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#323721 - 03/25/2011 11:26 AM |
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Welcome to the forum Mon! Tillie is a beautiful gal and I'm sure she is a bit intimidating just by her size.
Are you familiar with Marker Training? There is a free ebook on this site explaining how to get started and that will help you train Tillie just about anything you can imagine. I think if you work on getting her to bark and growl on command, you will probably have all the "deterring" you need! Protection work is a whole different ball of wax and I'll leave that to the folks who are experienced in that venue, but I can tell you most dogs are not cut out for "real" protection work.
Is Tillie the dog you worked with in agility?
Again, welcome to the forum!
Thanks, yes, Tilly is the dog I worked in agility. We stopped because I had and op and could no longer do it with her  but hope to start again in the summer.
Sorry, I should have phrased it right! I don't think Tilly would ever make it as a PP dog, but I just want to teach her to ward off any potential threats! (A teenage girl has a lot of those nowadays!) Yes, I am familliar with marker training, I have taught Tilly many, many commands with it. She can 'speak' on command - but like I said - not in a very intimidating way! lol.She can sort of growl - but not very convincingly.
So, how would I get her to 'guard?' As in barking ALOT, maybe a little jumping? Maybe if I gave her the command for all of them and marked/rewarded her when she did it - and build it up that way?
She has quite a high prey - drive, will this help?
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Re: Hey .... newbie teenage girl!
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#323722 - 03/25/2011 11:29 AM |
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Barking can easily be taught by frustrating the dog.
Stand on opposite sides of a gate or fence, in a crate,etc and show the dog it's favorite toy or treat. Tease it a bit and the frustration will get the barking going. Mark and reward!
When it really starts to understand what's going on just put a command to it.
One of my GSDS will bark with a word command and also by hand signal. I just "pinch" my thumb and index finger together like a bird eating.
Anything will work. That's just what I use for my dog.
Thanks, I will try this. She will 'speak' with the same hand signal!! lol!
But, once we have mastered this, how can I get her to do it say, infront of other people rather than looking at me? I know this makes we sound like I want a dog that is aggressive towards people - but i really don't! lol!
For example, if tried to get her to bark at someone she'll bark at me and look around, not at the person!
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#323830 - 03/25/2011 08:41 PM |
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So, how would I get her to 'guard?' As in barking ALOT, maybe a little jumping?
Monique, having a dog which is even just perceived as being aggressive/overly protective can be quite a liablity to the owner. Although it might sound great to have a dog you can command to growl/bark/jump at someone, you might be asking for more than you bargained for.
What other behaviors are you interested in training?
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Re: Hey .... newbie teenage girl!
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#326620 - 04/10/2011 10:46 AM |
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OK, I live in a place with very low crime, so maybe I'm way out of line, but I tend to agree with Barbara. I think just having a large dog with you makes potential trouble makers look somewhere else. You don't want your dog suddenly getting out of control and attacking someone who might be annoying you, but isn't a real threat. Remember that if (God forbid) you are attacked, your dog is likely to get aggressive anyway.
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#326641 - 04/10/2011 03:12 PM |
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I completely disagree with Arik. Most dogs will not protect there owner/handler. A dog looks to you as the pack leader. The pack leader defends the pack and the pack follows the leader. So if a person did get attacked most dogs would look to the owner for guidance or just flat out run and hide.
In my opinion a well trained neutral dog that looks at bite as a pray game is better then hoping your "pet" will protect you. But this said you should not undertake bite work with out having someone with experience to help you.
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#326642 - 04/10/2011 03:20 PM |
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Of course this discussion belongs in another forum, and I really don't want to make Monique feel uncomfortable that she's started up a whole thread. Welcome Monique!
I'm not qualified to talk about "most" dogs, and of course there are differences in temperament and breed. But my Darwin picks up and acts instantly on any cues from me if I act aggressively towards others - other dogs, I should say, as I don't act aggressively to other humans... I'm surprised you say that most dogs would act differently, but I defer to your experience.
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