Kevin Wasilonsky wrote 04/12/2011 06:12 PM Stay Command? #326974 - 04/12/2011 06:12 PM
Kevin Wasilonsky Webboard User Reg: 03-24-2011 Posts: 19 Loc: Offline	Hello, My lab is currently 11 weeks old, and does the sit, down, come command pretty well with treat motivation. I was wondering if it's ok to start incorporating the stay command at his age or should I wait? Thanks in advance! please check your URL bbcode syntax!!! http://www.doghouseforum.com Dog community forum.
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Sharon DeGaramo wrote 04/12/2011 06:41 PM Re: Stay Command? [Re: Kevin Wasilonsky ] #326979 - 04/12/2011 06:41 PM
Sharon DeGaramo Webboard User Reg: 04-11-2011 Posts: 89 Loc: Offline	You're question shows insight; it's a very good question. That can be a tough command for a pup that age. How you plan to execute it is important--and in small doses so that he can be successful. I'll be interested to see what others say and their suggestions.
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steve strom wrote 04/12/2011 06:50 PM Re: Stay Command? [Re: Kevin Wasilonsky ] #326981 - 04/12/2011 06:50 PM
steve strom Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2006 Posts: 4203 Loc: Offline	At 11wks I wasnt giving any commands. Just luring him into the positions before a release. Just trying to develop that speed into down or sit or stand. The first command I gave was his release, I use OK. For stay, I dont give a command. Sit is sit until the release.
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Aaron Myracle wrote 04/12/2011 07:02 PM Re: Stay Command? [Re: steve strom ] #326983 - 04/12/2011 07:02 PM
Aaron Myracle Webboard User Reg: 06-06-2008 Posts: 5062 Loc: WA, USA Offline	Is this a sport pup? Stay is an implied command, like Steve said. You sit until I release you or give you another command. You slowly build the during between command and reward.
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Sharon DeGaramo wrote 04/12/2011 07:21 PM Re: Stay Command? [Re: Kevin Wasilonsky ] #326988 - 04/12/2011 07:21 PM
Sharon DeGaramo Webboard User Reg: 04-11-2011 Posts: 89 Loc: Offline	Yes! 'Stay' always seemed counter-intuitive to me. You give a command, and that's what the dog needs to do until otherwise instructed. So I must ask: why do so many "trainers" insist on teaching 'stay' as an extension of other commands?
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Barbara Schuler wrote 04/12/2011 07:41 PM Re: Stay Command? [Re: Kevin Wasilonsky ] #326992 - 04/12/2011 07:41 PM
Barbara Schuler Webboard User Reg: 01-15-2009 Posts: 5090 Loc: Lanexa Virginia Offline	Like Steve and Aaron, I don't train a stay. I think 11 weeks is very young to be expecting a pup to be able to maintain anything for too long. Keep your training fun, just work on luring and developing muscle memory. You'll have lots of time to get more formal. Just enjoy this age - it goes sooo fast. Have you checked out any of the free-streaming videos my Michael Ellis? We'd love to see a pic of this pup!
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randy allen wrote 04/12/2011 08:11 PM Re: Stay Command? [Re: Sharon DeGaramo ] #326997 - 04/12/2011 08:11 PM
randy allen Webboard User Reg: 08-30-2007 Posts: 3283 Loc: Offline	Sharon, It depends on what the trainer is training to. In some venues 'stay' is an important command. Sometimes incorporated with but not necessarily part and parcel of a 'sit' or 'down'.
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Ramachandran Subramanian wrote 04/12/2011 08:22 PM Re: Stay Command? [Re: randy allen ] #327002 - 04/12/2011 08:22 PM
Ramachandran Subramanian Webboard User Reg: 08-02-2004 Posts: 809 Loc: Chennai, India Offline	I dont train stay either. But I think more that 30-40 seconds of stay will be a bit too much for a little puppy. Best thing to do at this age in my opinion is to work on engagement (with food/toy) and make him sit and make him stay a few seconds before mark reward. This way he will slowly understand that sit means sit and stay unless instructed otherwise.
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Kevin Wasilonsky wrote 04/12/2011 08:22 PM Re: Stay Command? [Re: Barbara Schuler ] #327003 - 04/12/2011 08:22 PM
Kevin Wasilonsky Webboard User Reg: 03-24-2011 Posts: 19 Loc: Offline	Yes i have the two dvds 8 weeks to 8 months and basic obedience. Ill re-watch them. THanks for the advice! please check your URL bbcode syntax!!! http://www.doghouseforum.com Dog community forum.
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Kevin Wasilonsky wrote 04/12/2011 08:28 PM Re: Stay Command? [Re: Kevin Wasilonsky ] #327005 - 04/12/2011 08:28 PM
Kevin Wasilonsky Webboard User Reg: 03-24-2011 Posts: 19 Loc: Offline	Here he is http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/kevinwas/New060.jpg please check your URL bbcode syntax!!! http://www.doghouseforum.com Dog community forum.
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