paul Buttery wrote 05/06/2011 04:03 PM Thiamine Deficency #331621 - 05/06/2011 04:03 PM
paul Buttery Webboard User Reg: 11-19-2005 Posts: 18 Loc: Offline	i Been to my vets and wasted my time I have 7 GSD pups 4 weeks old. Mum been on raw since 7 weeks 3 pups are walking around with crooked necks slightly to ground 1 pup much more noticable than the other 2. All pups plump and looking good. mum fine. all pups in no pain what so ever. Started weaning pups on to raw at 4 weeks with no problems. Pups drinking water ok. Pups peeing/pooing ok. pups had no milk other than mums. Mum fine feeding pups. I noticed at 2 weeks 1 pup had slight bow/twist to neck. So 3 pups with same symptons so somthing wrong. Has anyone had pups with Thiamine deficency Is it reversable? Whats the best course of action? would be greatful for advice emailed then I get it ASAP THANKS PAUL Edited by Connie Sutherland (05/06/2011 04:21 PM) Edit reason: deleted public email; sending PM
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Connie Sutherland wrote 05/06/2011 04:19 PM Re: Thiamine Deficency [Re: paul Buttery ] #331623 - 05/06/2011 04:19 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	More details. These dogs have not been on a commercial food containing sulfites or sulphur dioxide? You have not had them on a lot of raw fish? What did the vet say to do? The vet did bloodwork, diagnosed thiamine deficiency, and did not give you advice?
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paul Buttery wrote 05/06/2011 04:29 PM Re: Thiamine Deficency [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #331625 - 05/06/2011 04:29 PM
paul Buttery Webboard User Reg: 11-19-2005 Posts: 18 Loc: Offline	Hi Connie no commercial dog food. no fish 3 pups have same symptons so ruled out injury. no pups in pain so ruled out hip/elbow/bone problems. Thiamine deficency does not quite weigh up ? but i need to do somthing before permanent damage done? THANKS PAUL
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Connie Sutherland wrote 05/06/2011 04:45 PM Re: Thiamine Deficency [Re: paul Buttery ] #331626 - 05/06/2011 04:45 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	How was thiamine deficiency diagnosed?
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Connie Sutherland wrote 05/06/2011 04:47 PM Re: Thiamine Deficency [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #331627 - 05/06/2011 04:47 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	The vet did bloodwork, diagnosed thiamine deficiency, and did not give you advice?
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paul Buttery wrote 05/06/2011 04:47 PM Re: Thiamine Deficency [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #331628 - 05/06/2011 04:47 PM
paul Buttery Webboard User Reg: 11-19-2005 Posts: 18 Loc: Offline	3 pups are walking around with head to one side and slightly to floor,1 is lot more noticable than other 2
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paul Buttery wrote 05/06/2011 04:50 PM Re: Thiamine Deficency [Re: paul Buttery ] #331629 - 05/06/2011 04:50 PM
paul Buttery Webboard User Reg: 11-19-2005 Posts: 18 Loc: Offline	what i dont understand is they have only just started eating raw. i noticed 1 pup with neck problem 2 weeks ago, also mum is 3yrs and no problems. can u get thiamine deficency through milk?
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paul Buttery wrote 05/06/2011 04:52 PM Re: Thiamine Deficency [Re: paul Buttery ] #331630 - 05/06/2011 04:52 PM
paul Buttery Webboard User Reg: 11-19-2005 Posts: 18 Loc: Offline	no blood work done.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 05/06/2011 04:54 PM Re: Thiamine Deficency [Re: paul Buttery ] #331631 - 05/06/2011 04:54 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	How did the vet diagnose thiamine deficiency? Not the symptoms. Tell us what test told the vet that it was thiamine deficiency, and what the vet said to do. Did the vet do a blood test and hand you the result? Also, what was the vet's advice? Did the vet give you anything?
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Connie Sutherland wrote 05/06/2011 04:55 PM Re: Thiamine Deficency [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #331632 - 05/06/2011 04:55 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	What did the vet say to do? Did the vet give you anything?
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