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I've always taught it as a lost item type thing. Different word of command, shouldn't interfere. Though if you're training for competition it is probably not a great idea.
Taught with the dog heeling, drop the toy in long grass on the track - stop and say, "Where's my ....? Go get it!" Point the dog back along the track and they figure it out. Gradually make it a longer distance between dropping and command.
dogs seem to figure it out when taught this way, because they have been walking and not playing they don't go look for it in bushes etc. Wonderful if you loose your car keys.
Most all the books and video are relative to sport tracking. That's light yrs different then real world tracking as seen with Police K9s or SAR dogs.
When doing an article search the dog is more apt to use air scent as opposed to actually tracking. FST (sport foot step tracking) is different in that the dog is not allowed to leave the track for an article. It will only indicate on articles found right on the actual track.
I've done SAR, article search, HRD and Schutzhund sport tracking with the same dog and each has it's conflicting scenarios.
Different commands for different situations.
I put a sch 1 & 2 on my service dog he also did a area search for suspects I agree with Mr Scott, i used the same response for articles on track and article search ( the down)although different commands. our area searches were all air scent for the most part. i never allowed him to back track in training. good luck john
Hi, The video I have been using is leerburg Training S&R Tracking Dogs and books are all S&R related . I have trained two dogs for S&R in tracking.I am now retired from S&R and training my second dog in Trials. I agree with Mr Scott there is a big difference from training S&R and training for sport. The back track in our sport is posing a problem for my dog. If the wind pushes her off the corner and she has to relocate the track she will always double check the direction and choose forward as she has been taught. My last dog trained for S&R gave me hell when I tried to get him to go backwards, He decided it was an area search and ripped up the county side, and barked in frustration when I told him it wasnt what I wanted.
My problem is am I teaching a behaviour that may come back to bite me.. Tracking is my first passion everything else comes second.
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