Dogtra No-Bark not doing the trick
#335182 - 06/01/2011 03:47 PM |
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Our dog has gotten much better about the barking, but when she wants to...she will bark straight through this thing even at the highest level. We slowly raised this a level every day, and she squeals when it goes off, but then barks right through it. Should we try the one from tri-tronics? Does it stim more effectively? It appears to take 3-5 seconds for the dogtra model to reset, we got this back when we had our dogtra training collar, and have had nothing but poor results from their products, but I wanted to see if anyone might have some other insight before we move on to a different product.
Also just as a note, if she is barking through the stim and I open the door and give here the quiet command, she is instantly silent.
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Re: Dogtra No-Bark not doing the trick
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#335183 - 06/01/2011 03:51 PM |
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I'd like more details. This raises red flags for me.
What kind of exercise and training is the dog getting? What is triggering the barking? Is the dog indoors (open the door to what?)?
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#335185 - 06/01/2011 03:55 PM |
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I bought the tri-tronics from Leerburg about 2 months ago. It works like a charm. Ziva knows when it is on and doesn't even bark when she is wearing it. I can usually leave it off her for 2 or three days and she will stay quiet. So I would defintely recommend the tri-tronics.
I also have a tri-tronic e collar that I love. And FYI, they really stand behind their products.
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#335199 - 06/01/2011 06:58 PM |
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I have a very high drive dog, with a high pain tolerance. The dogtra no-bark collar works just fine for us.
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#335225 - 06/01/2011 10:31 PM |
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I might be mistaken, but if the dog is not responding as expected from the device, isn't it a good idea to take a close look at the situation where the device is being applied? Maybe the dog is not responding because the association the dog is making between the stimulation from the device and your desire for the dog to stop barking is not clear. What is(are) the situation(s) that is making the dog bark? Is it the same thing over and over? Or different things at different times in different situations?
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#335243 - 06/02/2011 06:24 AM |
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Is it possible the contacts are not touching correctly? Or that they are not the right size?
I, too prefer the tri-tronics. I especially like the way it tells me how many corrections my dog received. They do not shut off, though, and there is not really a reset time, which can be good and bad. Good for a dog that is collar wise and learns to bark through until the collar resets or turns off, bad for a dog that starts to panic from the corrections.
How about going back to a regular e-collar for a session or two of refresher on what the stim means and how to shut it off (stop barking)? Then put the bark collar back on when you think the dog understands?
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#335247 - 06/02/2011 06:45 AM |
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If she is barking through the highest level, I would guess the contacts are not properly "contacting" (assuming there are not other issues like Connie and Jenny mention).
Does anyone know if that collar will work with a Cinch-It collar?
IMHO, getting proper contact when using any kind of an e-collar is extremely important. It is not fair to the dog to be able to bark one time and not feel a correction then bark another time and get nailed. Very confusing!
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#335261 - 06/02/2011 09:18 AM |
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It does work with a cinch it, if you do a little convincing.
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Re: Dogtra No-Bark not doing the trick
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#335269 - 06/02/2011 10:32 AM |
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Our dog has gotten much better about the barking, but when she wants to...she will bark straight through this thing even at the highest level. We slowly raised this a level every day, and she squeals when it goes off, but then barks right through it.
You may actually have it set to high. Most collars have a pause after the stim, before they will stim again. But if the collar is set to high some dogs will squeal from the shock, and then start barking because of the pain, then they get another shock for the barking, more squealing/barking, and it becomes a cycle that they can't break out of.
Kind of like smashing your thumb with a hammer. You can't help but jump around making noise for a few seconds after it happens because of the shock and pain. But what if you didn't immediately shut up afterwards, and so your thumb was smashed again 2 seconds later, more jumping/yelling, another smash, etc.
Unless she's barking at something and just ignoring the correction, in which case either she doesn't understand how to stop the corrections by being quiet, or what she's barking at is worth it to her to take the correction. Usually though it's the first one, not the second, the majority of dogs will decide it's not worth the barking, although they will still stare, run the fence, etc if something is stimulating them.
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[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#335304 - 06/02/2011 01:23 PM |
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I'd like more details. This raises red flags for me.
What kind of exercise and training is the dog getting? What is triggering the barking? Is the dog indoors (open the door to what?)?
3 Mile run/walk in the Am, and at the moment we have progressed to tug reward training 1 hr 2- 3x a day, the rest of the time she likes to hang outside
She is barking at anything and everything from wind, to any shadow that might be going over the fence.
She squeals even on the vibrate mode of the collar, and then will bark straight through it, I haven't raised the level past 5 and haven't considered it unless you all think it is worth a try.
I think I have answered all of the questions, if I missed one let me know
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