Fear Aggersion at vets?
#29143 - 10/28/2004 08:41 PM |
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I have a female Shar-pei mix who shows Aggersion at the vets office.. No one can handle her without a muzzle & a strong seditive. I might be part of the problem, she guards me.. She won't let a tech, vet or clerk near me.. God forbid someone walks over to talk to me. She comes unglued snarling & barking. We've also had an incedent where she bit through a vet tech's shoe while under 3 doses of seditive. She's always shown this aggersive side at the vets office.. From a 7 week old puppy to a 1 1/2 yr old adult.. Any info & help would be much appericated
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#29144 - 10/28/2004 09:46 PM |
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How does the dog do in obedience class? is it aggressive there?
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#29145 - 10/28/2004 09:53 PM |
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No, because I can't afford classes. I try to do all the training myself..
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#29146 - 10/28/2004 10:13 PM |
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Well, the additional cost of having to sedate a dog for any vet. procedures ( plus, you're probably going to be charged for a more complicated procedure each time, due to the additional staff and time needed for a fear biting dog )will really add up over the course of the life of the dog.
Obedience classes would end up being cheap in comparison to those additional vet charges, in my experience.
And by your description of the dog's behavior in the vets office, your training is not up to what is needed for your dog. If your dog was doing that type of behavior at 7 1/2 weeks old ( as you mentioned ), it has a severe temperament flaw.
Bottom line - you need a professional dog trainer involved with this dog.
Has the dog ever been to a groomer or was it ever kenneled? Did it do ok in those situations?
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#29147 - 10/28/2004 10:19 PM |
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What kind of sedative does the vet use? Is it, by any chance, Acepromazine? I see no problem with using medication if it helps, but there are known problems with using Acepromazine for aggressive dogs. There may be a different medication that will be more effective, such as Valium or Xanax.
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#29148 - 10/28/2004 10:31 PM |
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Maybe I better explain a bit more about Sassy.. She was a "free puppy" from an "opps"
breeding.. Mom was supposed to be GSD/Collie mix and Dad was the pure bred Shar-pei next door.. I never met the mom or dad, I was just given the dog.. I also have to deal with other people who do not listen when I try to corect her, they say I'm being mean & I'm hurting her. I've tried to do the NILIF with her, and my grandma decides to let her do as she pleases.. I do want to fix her problems, and If I had the extra money to afford the classes I'd go. It bothers me when people tell me I'm not a good dog owner when I can't take her to classes.. What should I do, put my dogs problems ahead of me paying my bills?? And no we've never had her kenneled or groomed, we haven't had the need too.. She does have a crate she sleeps in every night.. No problems getting her in..
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#29149 - 10/28/2004 10:52 PM |
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Crystal,
No where did anybody say anything about you not being a good dog owner.
If we as trainers can't ask you questions, we can't get enough information to give you helpful advice. Your immediately getting defensive is just going to make trainers *not* offer any advice, period. And there are very few places on the internet where there's trainer's available that have the knowledge to help people with a dog like yours.
And training advice is going to be what is good for the dog. Since we don't know your home or financial situation, most of us will give the advice that has the highest chance for success - if your living situation requires modifications of that advice, that is of course your choice.
Obviously my questioning to get further into your dogs needs has bothered you, so I'll just leave others to comment on your dog's problems.
See ya later, and good luck.
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#29150 - 10/28/2004 11:11 PM |
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Without seeing your dog in person and showing you what to do, it is impossible to help. You could do private lessons as you could afford them. Even one would be able to set you in the right direction (not ideal, but better than nothing). I remember it costing $25 for an hour private lesson where I used to live. $25 shouldn't be too hard to save up, and then go from there. It will cost you more than $25 for one sedation! Yes, I am a college student but I spent $15 a month on supplements for my dog to improve her quality of life and over $200 having a chipped tooth fixed a while ago. I don't own a car or eat out. If you can't come up with $25 you might be able to trade working as kennel help for lessons. I worked for a vet in high school and earned dog money that way.
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#29151 - 10/28/2004 11:20 PM |
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I'm sorry if I seemed defensive. It wasn't my intention.. I'm trying to learn, and I guess my comments are all comeing out wrong. I just feel very frustrated when I try to train her, and my grandparents interfere, telling me I'm being mean & curel.. Will the NILIF training work for her if I can get my grandparents to co-operate?
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#29152 - 10/29/2004 12:18 AM |
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Crystal,
You may also want to go to the Leerburg home page and read the articles Ed has written about aggressive dogs and the Q and A about aggressive dogs if you have not already done so. Heres a link to one of the articles http://www.leerburg.com/aggresiv.htm
You may want to have your grandparents check it out as well, maybe it will help them see where your coming from.
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