 Neutered dog behavior
#343358 - 09/03/2011 09:27 AM |
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I was chatting to an acquaintance about her plans to start up a dog walking service in her city, and she told me of some advice she had received from a business mentor.
This person said that she would never have an intact dog walking in a pack, not because of any aggression on the intact dogs part, but because all the neutered dogs tend to pick on the intact one. They get riled up, act "threatened", posture, and cause mayhem that is not the case when the intact dog is not present.
Is this generally true, or perhaps just one particular configuration of dogs this person experienced?
I told my friend I would pose the question on my forum, I'll also try to get her to join!
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Re: Neutered dog behavior
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#343362 - 09/03/2011 11:30 AM |
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I'd say hogwash, but I can only speak of my pack - 2 spayed females and 1 intact male. I walk all three without any problems and they "run" as a pack without issue as well.
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Re: Neutered dog behavior
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#343364 - 09/03/2011 12:11 PM |
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I have no idea also, but was told this by a doggie chiro. Before I came here and learned that it is not a good idea to allow doggie greetings with strange dogs, I was at the vet's office waiting on a chiro appt. A man came out with a big black dog looked like a black pyrenees, but it obviously wasn't. He said his was friendly and was mine and could they greet each other.
We allowed them to sniff for just a moment, but as soon as his dog sniffed Tanka's equiptment he started to growl. That was the end of the greeting. (I know better now)
The chiro said the other dog "didn't like" or was intimidated by the fact that he was intact. I have no idea if this was correct, or as Melissa said, "hogwash".
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Re: Neutered dog behavior
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#343369 - 09/03/2011 12:53 PM |
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"The chiro said the other dog "didn't like" or was intimidated by the fact that he was intact. I have no idea if this was correct, or as Melissa said, "hogwash". "
To the "hogwash" comment, may I add "BS" ? 
That particular issue (all the neutered dogs ganging up in jealousy, or a neutered dog intimidated by intactness in the intact dog), I don't think so. It's imaginative, though! I've heard a behaviorist explain fear-biting as the small dog being angry that she "knew" she would never be as big as the big dog and so she snapped at him out of envy. And poor body image.
But back to planet earth. I think that "This person said that she would never have an intact dog walking in a pack, not because of any aggression on the intact dogs part, but because all the neutered dogs tend to pick on the intact one. They get riled up, act "threatened", posture, and cause mayhem that is not the case when the intact dog is not present" is not a generic scenario. I think that pack leadership might have to be kept finely honed if there were two intact males in the group, but not for anything like that reason.
JMO, though! Anyone here ever seen anything like that?
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Re: Neutered dog behavior
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#343370 - 09/03/2011 12:57 PM |
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When my dog was intact he had regular playdates with a group of fixed males and a few spayed females...only dog that ever got picked on was an obnoxious fixed lab who tried to hump everything (his owner was asked to stop bringing him and that solved the issue)....
sounds like an excuse for untrained neutered dog owners to justify their dogs' behavior or condition....same way they argue that their dog is obese because he's neutered...
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Re: Neutered dog behavior
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#343378 - 09/03/2011 02:49 PM |
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Well, since it was a comment from a person walking other people's dogs, I wouldn't think she would have anything to gain from making up such an observation, but you never know.
I wonder though, if the scent of an intact dog, being different from their own, and possibly quite foreign from what they are used to, could set off aggression in some neutered males.
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Re: Neutered dog behavior
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#343382 - 09/03/2011 04:39 PM |
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Smells like BS to me 
I have neutered and and unneutered males that get along fine both socially and when working.
Agression between dogs is usually a specific dog/management problem and and not a genitalia problem. I would say neutered males are less likely to be bothered by "genitalia issues" with other dogs male or female in general.
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#343383 - 09/03/2011 04:39 PM |
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My father in law has an 8 year old intact male (little guy) and aside from getting out of the way of him trying to mark and mount their ankles, my dog’s don’t pay any attention to him.
I’ve never thought too much about it but we’ve mixed and mingled with friend’s intact dogs on quite a few occasions. My neutered males don’t pick on other dogs – period. They do adjust to the different temperaments though.
There’s quite a submissive, intact male whose body language could be seen as inviting of unwarranted attention, which I’m sure my boys would oblige if I let them but that’s a dog/temperament thing. I’ve seen the same behavior in neutered males.
It’s funny about the smell thing. I had a lady tell me once (after a discussion about raw feeding) that was the reason her ankle biter was acting aggressively towards my dogs…. because she smelled the raw meat on them. Please….  I just said, “Yeah, its best we don’t allow them to associate with each other.”
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#343384 - 09/03/2011 04:59 PM |
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Missed the edit window but I just wanted to add that I think some people jump to all kinds of distorted conclusions when they’re trying to explain away a behavior that they either know very little about or feel they have no control over.
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