Deanna Thompson wrote 01/29/2002 09:52 PM Food & Chow hound, how to protect my fingers? #29544 - 01/29/2002 09:52 PM
Deanna Thompson Moderator Reg: 10-27-2001 Posts: 2261 Loc: Eastern Maine Offline	I have been using the Drive building excercises to help with the focus in my pup, but I am still using hotdogs to help shape the individual excercises. Only problem is he is taking my fingers with the hotdogs. Any advice on what kinds of gloves work best. With my older dog I was able to switch to a harder food for training and that did slow her down, but he really NEEDS the hotdogs at this point to keep him in the realm of my world. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
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milt ebner wrote 01/29/2002 10:25 PM Re: Food & Chow hound, how to protect my fingers? [Re: Deanna Thompson ] #29545 - 01/29/2002 10:25 PM
milt ebner Webboard User Reg: 07-18-2001 Posts: 369 Loc: Offline	You can use gloves that meat cutters in packing houses use.If you are really serious I will give you a web site.Did you ever try putting a hot dog in your mouth and then spitting it into the dogs mouth.Its not as gross as it sounds. milt
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Deanna Thompson wrote 01/30/2002 05:19 AM Re: Food & Chow hound, how to protect my fingers? [Re: Deanna Thompson ] #29546 - 01/30/2002 05:19 AM
Deanna Thompson Moderator Reg: 10-27-2001 Posts: 2261 Loc: Eastern Maine Offline	Yes, I am really serious or I wouldn't have asked. The dog is 7 months old and I need to have the food in my hand at this point to get him where I want him. Spitting is not going to work for that now. With winter and all my left hand looks like raw hamburger and doesn't feel too good either. And yes, I have tried tapping the end of his nose when he does it, he seems to think that is a game. :rolleyes: <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
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milt ebner wrote 01/30/2002 07:05 AM Re: Food & Chow hound, how to protect my fingers? [Re: Deanna Thompson ] #29547 - 01/30/2002 07:05 AM
milt ebner Webboard User Reg: 07-18-2001 Posts: 369 Loc: Offline	here's the web site http://catalog.kochsupplies.com/SCategory.cfm?categoryid=172 check out both styles, Cut resistant and the ultimate would be metal mesh. milt
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Vince P. wrote 01/31/2002 10:01 AM Re: Food & Chow hound, how to protect my fingers? [Re: Deanna Thompson ] #29548 - 01/31/2002 10:01 AM
Vince P. Webboard User Reg: 07-13-2001 Posts: 1050 Loc: NJ Offline	The correct answer was food coming from the mouth. The reason it is not working is the dog does not realize that all food comes from your mouth. You must first sit on the floor and show him the food in your mouth. Then let him come in and take it. After a while he will focus on your mouth as much as he does your hands and you can begin to stand and feed him.
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Deanna Thompson wrote 01/31/2002 10:15 AM Re: Food & Chow hound, how to protect my fingers? [Re: Deanna Thompson ] #29549 - 01/31/2002 10:15 AM
Deanna Thompson Moderator Reg: 10-27-2001 Posts: 2261 Loc: Eastern Maine Offline	Ok, maybe I am not getting something straight about the spitting thing but I do not see how that will help me get him in the proper position for sitz, platz, fuss etc. He does not yet understand all the commands and will spin in front of me for the food. Yes, of course I ignore this and keep working, but all I am getting out of spitting is a confused dog that has no idea what I want.
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Vince P. wrote 01/31/2002 01:34 PM Re: Food & Chow hound, how to protect my fingers? [Re: Deanna Thompson ] #29550 - 01/31/2002 01:34 PM
Vince P. Webboard User Reg: 07-13-2001 Posts: 1050 Loc: NJ Offline	The dog is 7 months old and I need to have the food in my hand at this point to get him where I want him. Spitting is not going to work for that now. Once the dog knows that all treats come from your mouth he will not take his eyes off of you. Then you only reward when he is in proper position expecting more accuracy each time before he is rewarded. Ed showed a great example of this in one of his tapes. He shows how a mouse was taught to roll a ball across the floor and drop it into a basket using food rewards. The food did not come from his hands. Every time the mouse was close to the proper position a food pellet was dropped. As the mouse learned what the proper position was more accuracy was expected before he was rewarded. Until he was only rewarded for making a basket. If you can teach a mouse to play basketball without feeding from your hands teaching a dog to heel is a piece of cake. LOL.
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Deanna Thompson wrote 01/31/2002 02:10 PM Re: Food & Chow hound, how to protect my fingers? [Re: Deanna Thompson ] #29551 - 01/31/2002 02:10 PM
Deanna Thompson Moderator Reg: 10-27-2001 Posts: 2261 Loc: Eastern Maine Offline	Ok! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> I doubted the gloves were gonna work anyway I like to be able to FEEL things. You don't happen to know which tape it was do you? I want to order some more, but really have no idea wether I should get the Tom Rose one on competition heeling dogs or just get the basic OB. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
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Vince P. wrote 01/31/2002 02:37 PM Re: Food & Chow hound, how to protect my fingers? [Re: Deanna Thompson ] #29552 - 01/31/2002 02:37 PM
Vince P. Webboard User Reg: 07-13-2001 Posts: 1050 Loc: NJ Offline	I have viewed close to 30 of Ed's tapes and I rank Tom's in the top 5. Go for it.
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Chuck Fantasia wrote 01/31/2002 07:48 PM Re: Food & Chow hound, how to protect my fingers? [Re: Deanna Thompson ] #29553 - 01/31/2002 07:48 PM
Chuck Fantasia Moderator Reg: 08-08-2001 Posts: 1174 Loc: NJ Offline	Vince, Its amazing how one can give a mouse a food pellet and it will make baskets but pay Shaq O'Neil millions of dollars and he still can't make a damn free throw! I love that part of Ed's tape!LOL <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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