New problem thy I wouldn't have thought would be a problem. Ace has always been vocal. But barks inbeteen each command. But only with his toy as a reward. Food rewards he hardly makes a peep other than a whine or two fro
Frustration. How do I get him to stop barking in ob? It's like he's yelling at me "give me my toy"
He's being trained in schutzhund and will have a wonderful bark and hold someday lol.. But I've never seen a dog trial while barking in a fuss or when given the command to sits/platz. I'll try to get a few videos of what I mean.

Any suggestions would greatly be appreciated!

Video would be great!

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But I've never seen a dog trial while barking in a fuss or when given the command to sits/platz.

Yes you have, here it goes, LOL....
MR 1

This is a video of one of our club members' MR 1 trial, her Dobie (Jet) is very vocal, I think she barked throughout the trial

I don't have a solution for you, but I do recall Jet's handler saying that Jet's sister (owned by someone else) does the same thing during training.

They did go on with MR 1 and ended up placing third in the national

yeah! i'm not the only one lol..i knew i wasn't the only one...ok here's the video's..one with treats..one with toy. now mind you we just started working on perfecting his fuss last week. he's got the idea now we're just working on getting right the first time feel free to correct any of my handler errors..as i know i make many. poor ace

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW6I0pf5H0s treats


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNR5CsQg0bw toy


and after re-watching them...i STILL need help on my marking lol

He's frustrated. He might need a bigger better reward as in huge tug play or bigger event with food (marker=release, make big deal out of it, play with food/toy).

I think this is not about keeping him quiet but about making it more clear about the precise behavior you want. Get it right one time - huge reward - repeat.

It's drive. My KC is the same way

My male used to bark & whine & get very hectic & frustrated while heeling all the time. He is totally ball crazy. What worked for me was to move the ball to behind my back.

Try moving the toy/tug whatever you use to reward to holding it behind your back so it is out of sight. Make that transition slowly....over a few days so he knows it is still there, just out of sight. Be careful that you don't allow him to come across the front of you looking for the ball. Toss it behind you or over to the left side (switch it in your hands when it is behind your back form your right to you left ) to deliver it as a reward so you don't encourage his coming around the front looking for it. Reward very fast & freequently in the beginning...always from your left hand from behind your back.

My male gets very hectic when the ball is being held by my shoulder on under my arm or under my chin....he gets barky & can't cap his drive at all. By moving the ball to my back..he keeps his drive up, but stays calmer then with the ball in his face, just out of reach.

When you get the heel that you want even just a couple of steps at a time, in the begining...mark & reward. Just like you did when you first taught the heel. Make a big deal out of the reward. Add the heeling time & steps slowly.

Just what worked with my dog.

^^^^^^ What she said!^^^^^^^^^

Great post Anne.

Start your bark and hold now. Also teach him a quiet command. That way he has some contrast. If he barks during his OB, then you can tell him "NO. Quiet." And then only mark and reward when he's quietly doing the right thing. This means you will probably have to back up and ask for less duration, as it is his drive (he's demanding the toy) that's making him so vocal. That's a nice pup.

Thanks so much for all the advice! Been a bit busy with family in town.

He's got a nice revier comand and have worked on the bark and hold only cause he barks for everything it's in prey though. Everything heroes in prey lol
So mark and reward little steps first and reward when done correct instantly. I like the idea of food and ball together. I'll try that today. I'll also remember to throw behind to the left for rewards on not straight ahead. I think that's my habit.. A bad one.

And ball behind me. How do o slowly work into that? I think that would help too.

Thanks again!