My predicament is that the local Schutzhund club has disbanded and I am on my own with my GSD's training. I would like to optain a BH this fall. He is doing well on the majority of the obedience routine. The only thing we have not taught yet is the stand. The big things being missed by not having a club is the exposure to the many other dogs and exposure to lots of other "dog loving" people that understand and can help. The thought hit me about perhaps joining a local AKC obedience class so that some of the same benefits from atteneding a schutzhund club can be accomplished for the obedience part. I have title several dogs in AKC obedience but wonder if the AKC method of the obedience routine would cause problems in doing the Schutzhund obedience routine. There are lots of smilarities in the AKC obedience match routine and the BH. Any thoughts on this?
Any exposure with a group of dogs would be helpful. The addition of a knowledgeable trainer is also of assistance.
If the goal is a rote routine then no it won't be that helpful. If the goal is true obedience and the ability to do the attention obedience, then sure it will help to have the distractions and assistance of a trainer. Most of the work you do is done at home any way. The "group" is for problem solving. If you need to do something a little different, just tell the trainer so they know you are doing it on purpose and don't try and correct what you are doing.
If you can't be a Good Example,then You'll just have to Serve as a Horrible Warning. Catherine Aird.
Ok then that is what we will do. I remember bringing an AKC obedience titled dog onto a Schutzhund field and being told that his AKC obedience training would "screw him up" for doing the Schutzhund obedience. Well as it turned out he was far more accurate and steady in his obedience than any others on the field. One issue was the difference in the "about turn". Where the AKC dog stayes to the left side while doing the about turn, in Schutzhund the the handler rotates the opposite. Is this still true or can one do one or the other in the about turn?
I teach both forms of about turn. I also teach a front sit recall and a recall to heel position. In some cases what makes the difference is the amount of room I have, in some cases it depends on the dogs preference. I have one dog that prefers to recall to heel, and one that prefers a front sit, and one in process. With a protection dog I prefer a recall to heel. Generally I will be facing any danger and I want the dog facing the proper direction to react.
If you can't be a Good Example,then You'll just have to Serve as a Horrible Warning. Catherine Aird.
In the past I too have taught the recall to the heel position, even with my back to the dog. One thing we are still working on is that when doing a long recall he often times is like a freight train and does not or forgets to hit the breaks. I slow him down when he does this by back stepping backwards a distance so as to give him more room to slow down. I forget now but what is the best way to get him to hit the breaks before his slidding into a sit position and slamming into me (yep I said slidding because that is what happens). On short recalls this is not a problem but on a long recal were he his time to build momentum it is. BTW he is 16 Months old
I would step out of the way and then call him to the proper position. The problem with the freight train is that if you discourage the speed too much, It will slwo the recall. The other thing I would do is do the work where he has better footing so he doesn't slide.
If you can't be a Good Example,then You'll just have to Serve as a Horrible Warning. Catherine Aird.
Vince I assume you mean there is no stand requirement for the BH. I did not realize that until you commented on it. But is the stand not something that will be required in the future, as in Schutzhund I? For those like me that need info on the BH I found this outline of the routine Traffic Steady Companion Dog Test(BH)
I think Ed also has a video on the BH. I will have to check.
Thanks guys and gals
Ed video on the BH is great, I just watched it yesterday. He outlines each phase and points out common handler errors. He even shows the differences between USA and DVG exersizes. Anyone preparing for a trial should definetly chech it out.
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