What is the difference today? Was looking to get an AKC Mal pup but no one wants to talk to me. I think it’s the AKC part. Yes I know what I’m getting into! At some time in all of these dog trainers lives they had to have gotten there first Mal and lived to tell about it, well some did. If I go with the shepard am I going to hit the same wall?
It’s the concentration that I’m looking for. Is there a difference between the two?? Everything that I have read say there the same except different lines. Are there any AKC Belgian Shepards???
this is driving a 64 year old man to drink!!!!!
All 4 varieties are Belgian Shepherds. They are differentiated by coat type - long black is the Groenendael, short fawn or sable is the Malinois, long fawn or sable is Tervuren, wiry fawn is Laekenois. All but the Laeken are recognized by the AKC - Belgian Malinois and Belgian Tervuren retained their name when split by the AKC, Groenendael is called Belgian Sheepdog by the AKC (not Belgian Shepherd). They were ALL registered as Belgian Sheepdogs at first, then when AKC separated them the Groenendael was the most popular and kept the name Belgian Sheepdog.
I don't know what you mean by nobody will talk to you about AKC Malinois - both of mine are AKC registered...
If looking at the Belgian Shepherd Family, it is my understanding that Mals have the highest drive of the bunch, but I have seen all 4 - including the Laeken - compete in Mondio. When competing in Mondio, a Malinois is recorded as "Belgian Shepherd Malinois (BSM) in the trial book.
There are some on here that know WAYYYYYY more about Mals than I do and I hope they chime in (hint hint Kadi and Konnie!!!)
As with the development of many "breeds" there was a time when all colors and coats could show up in any given Belgian litter.
The UKC still registers all as Belgian Shepherds with the Mal, Terv, Gren and laek as varieties of the Belgian Shepherd.
Same thig happened with the Fox Terrier in the 30s. They split the rough coated ones from the short coated ones and declared them separate breeds. The JRT still can have 3 different coats in one litter.
The Norwich Terrier was one breed with two different ear sets till the 70s then the drop eared dogs became Norfolk Terriers. The Kerry and the Soft Coated Wheaten was once one and the same. Cairn and West Highland, same thing.
I could go on and on but you get the drift. It's pretty much how many "breeds" were developed.
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I'll have to go pet Cindy's Stella to compare and get back to you
Well, it's only at the point when it's past time for them to be stripped. Then it looks and feels like feathers. LOL So they look a tad scruffy but feels nice.
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