Where can I find some info on handling a ring sport dog? I'm attempting to do this but I've never done this before & my dog is suffering because I'm not good. I need way more training than the dog!
Duane Hull Webboard User Reg: 09-23-2011
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Michael Ellis... he's one of the most prominent ring handlers/trainers in this country, and he specializes in teaching trainers. There are free videos in the Leerburg library, and more info at http://michaelellisschool.com/
Handling for training, trial, or both? Handling for trial can be confusing, there are a LOT of rules for the handler in Ring. On the flip side, the rulebook covers all of those rules, in a lot of detail. It's the largest rulebook I've seen for any of the sports I compete in.
Who are you currently training with? IE a Ring club, or are you trying to do Ring with another sport club? Where are you located?
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Then you need to find other people who train ringsport. IMO it's extremely difficult to train for any protection sport based on videos, and yes, even the ME ones. And remember that his methods will not work for all dogs. Mine is a prime example.
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005
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Handling for training, trial, or both? Handling for trial can be confusing, there are a LOT of rules for the handler in Ring. .... Who are you currently training with? IE a Ring club, or are you trying to do Ring with another sport club? Where are you located?
There is a mondioring club here but it is very small. The big problem is that my dog was mistreated (I suspect beaten) by one of the club members so I'm not happy about taking him there. Mojo has had some protection training from the person who abused him. The dog may be a sport dog but not a protection dog. He really does enjoy the biting aspect & since he's a mal, he needs something challenging to do. There is a trainer who is interested in working with Mojo in french ring. I'm setting the dog back since I don't know what I am doing. I'm in beautiful Amarillo, TX which isn't close to anything.
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IMHO, you need, must have, gotta train with, a good decoy that knows how to train your dog. Bite work, whether for sport or protection, is trained by the decoy much more than the handler. If you can't find a good decoy, I would suggest not doing bite work. There are plenty of other activities you can enjoy with your dog without risking the negatives that can come about from putting too much pressure on a dog.
Tracking, nosework, formal obedience, rally, frisbee, dock diving (if you have a pool or pond), fetch, 2 ball... there are a hundred things you can do to engage your dog both mentally and physically without a bite sleeve.
Duane Hull Webboard User Reg: 09-23-2011
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In the OP, Linda said she was holding the dog back because her handler skills are lacking. IMHO, it doesn't seem to be the dog that's struggling to learn the game; it's the handler. That's why I suggested the ME school. Michael is awesome at training handlers, and he is a champion ring handler. Kadi might have some good suggestions about where to get this training, also.
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