Starting over...advice appreciated..
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My dog will be 2 next month, and while he is a great dog that is very well behaved(except for being dog reactive)and fairly well trained he is not where I thought we would be at 2 years. He is a very smart dog, but I am obviously not a great trainer, but we have a lot of fun working on things together! So I have decided to just kind of go back and review everything and try to develop a more cohesive training program for him. My main goal is obedience, and of course that he's happy and enjoys his days, but not interested in any competitions or protection, etc.
My question is "in what order would you go through the Leerburg material?" I had (my dog chewed it) "The Power of Training your Dog with Food" dvd, and have "Power of Playing Tug", Basic Obedience, and "Remote collar training for the Pet owner".
My plan is to start over with "power of training with food" then maybe move on to "tug" or get "advanced concepts in motivation"? Then maybe the heeling video?
Any new videos will be through the pay per view system, I can really see the advantage of that and the big disadvantage of dvds. I never seem to have time to sit and watch a dvd anymore!
Would you recommend anything different? Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!
Jon
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#361683 - 05/21/2012 12:55 PM |
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http://leerburg.com/flix/player.php?id=529
If you are going to review Leerburg videos, I would strongly advise you watch the free video I linked first. It is "Michael Ellis Philosophy of Dog Training". It is an introduction to the system that Leerburg uses now, with a very detailed lecture on Operant Conditioning. VERY, very informative video, and perfect precursor to the other videos you have. "Advanced Concepts..." is also an excellent video.
I think the plan and order that you mentioned are very good, but I'd watch the Ellis lecture first, then "Advanced Concepts..." followed by "...Food" and "...Tug", then move on to heeling and other specific behaviors.
With all of this, I don't know how much Ed's "Basic Obedience" will help you (pbly not much).
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Thanks Duane, just the advice I was looking for. I will watch the link first. Thanks again!!
Jon
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Not to disagree with you Duane but I think somewhere in the advanced concepts DVD it mentions that they assume you've watched the food and tug videos first...I could be wrong. Those three are definitely a good core though.
And yes, watch the free videos, those are great. I really liked the "training people' ones. I believe they are clips from another marker training video Ed made but they really helped me visualize how I was communicating with my dog through marker training-watch it, you'll see what I mean
http://leerburg.com/flix/videodesc.php?id=80
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#361697 - 05/21/2012 05:43 PM |
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My dog will be 2 next month, and while he is a great dog that is very well behaved(except for being dog reactive)and fairly well trained he is not where I thought we would be at 2 years. He is a very smart dog, but I am obviously not a great trainer, but we have a lot of fun working on things together! So I have decided to just kind of go back and review everything and try to develop a more cohesive training program for him. My main goal is obedience, and of course that he's happy and enjoys his days, but not interested in any competitions or protection, etc.
My question is "in what order would you go through the Leerburg material?" I had (my dog chewed it) "The Power of Training your Dog with Food" dvd, and have "Power of Playing Tug", Basic Obedience, and "Remote collar training for the Pet owner".
My plan is to start over with "power of training with food" then maybe move on to "tug" or get "advanced concepts in motivation"? Then maybe the heeling video?
Any new videos will be through the pay per view system, I can really see the advantage of that and the big disadvantage of dvds. I never seem to have time to sit and watch a dvd anymore!
Would you recommend anything different? Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!
Jon
Power of Food (#220) is the place to start if you have some understanding of marker work.
If not, I strongly urge starting with Power of Markers (#219) ... http://leerburg.com/219.htm
Power of Markers is very accessible, very clear, and even inexpensive. It will lay a strong foundation for the Michael Ellis DVDs, which start with Power of Food (and then Power of Tug).
JMO!
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#361698 - 05/21/2012 05:44 PM |
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.... I think somewhere in the advanced concepts DVD it mentions that they assume you've watched the food and tug videos first...I could be wrong. .... I really liked the "training people' ones. I believe they are clips from another marker training video Ed made but they really helped me visualize how I was communicating with my dog through marker training-watch it, you'll see what I mean
http://leerburg.com/flix/videodesc.php?id=80
You're right, and yes, that clip is from #219 (Power of Markers).
It's good, isn't it?
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#361699 - 05/21/2012 05:54 PM |
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Not to disagree with you Duane but I think somewhere in the advanced concepts DVD it mentions that they assume you've watched the food and tug videos first...I could be wrong.
All of this input is good. The food and tug videos were made before "Advanced Concepts..." and the latter does reference the other two, but the presentations taught are meant to coincide with the work that you do in the other two, andthat is why I suggested it first. It really doesn't matter which order you watch these in.
The first free video that I linked is a prequel to "Power of Markers', which is also an excellent video.
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#361701 - 05/21/2012 06:01 PM |
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FWIW, I felt that the Tug and Food DVDs were much more helpful than the Advanced Concepts DVD.
And I definitely agree that any of them should be prefeaced by a good understanding of marker training or the Marker DVD!
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#361702 - 05/21/2012 06:49 PM |
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Awesome!! Thanks everyone
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