Are Police Dogs really this unpredictable?
#364730 - 08/02/2012 11:01 AM |
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Re: Are Police Dogs really this unpredictable?
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#364734 - 08/02/2012 11:14 AM |
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somewhere between the two stories is the truth , but either way , someone is going to ( a ) be in a lot of shit , and ( b ) be paying out some serious cash .
poor bastard that owns the beach house ( with , i hope , the liability insurance ) is probably going to wear at least half of it .
can't comment on the incident specifically without full disclosure of ALL the facts , but it looks like something triggered the dogs' drive to engage in aggressive behaviour , and i'd say it wasn't just the kid petting the dog .
hope she's gonna be ok , and can get past it , physically and emotionally .
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Re: Are Police Dogs really this unpredictable?
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#364736 - 08/02/2012 11:31 AM |
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The reporting leaves a little to be desired, and the dept has not concluded it's investigation, so the full truth is not yet known.
However, a statement was made that dept protocol dictates the dog not be in that situation to begin with. Coupled with the handler's account that warnings had been issued, and this, IMVHO opinion, seems TOTALLY PREDICTABLE.
Police dogs are not able to distinguish factors like age or health. It's a black and white decision; threat or-non threat. Clearly this was not the proper setting for the dog to be allowed to make his own decision (hence the protocols stating when and where a dept dog is allowed to be).
There has been a rash of police K9 attacks in the news lately. In each of the cases, it seems to me, the dog was put in the unfortunate postion of having to decide for himself what constitued a threat. Precise examples of the importance of good handling, and what can happen if the handler goes down.
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#364738 - 08/02/2012 11:49 AM |
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I don't think being a police dog has anything to do with it. The idiot shouldnt have taken the dog into that setting, she should know the dogs temperament and whether or not he would be ok there.
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#364741 - 08/02/2012 12:00 PM |
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Right, but in this case there was the added precaution of having regulations in place. 2Xidiot.
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#364742 - 08/02/2012 12:02 PM |
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Poor girl That being said, I have (more than once) taken my kids out of a situation where I felt that they were in danger of being bit by a dog. Chances are, these parents would not tell their child over and over not to touch someones loaded gun- they'd leave! To me it appears they were negligent as well as the dog owner. (I have a low tolerance for poor parenting)
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#364771 - 08/02/2012 10:08 PM |
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somewhere between the two stories is the truth
can't comment on the incident specifically without full disclosure of ALL the facts ,
The reporting leaves a little to be desired, and the dept has not concluded it's investigation,
However, a statement was made that dept protocol dictates the dog not be in that situation to begin with. Coupled with the handler's account that warnings had been issued,
IMO, "The truth," "reporting" "full disclosure," "the number of x a FIVE year old was told," won't change a thing.
The fact = a dog severely injuring a child.
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Re: Are Police Dogs really this unpredictable?
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#364777 - 08/03/2012 03:26 AM |
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The only innocent victims here are the child, who at age 5 is too young to be truly responsible; the dog, who was put in a situation it never should have been place in; and maybe the beach house owner who's being sued just because he may have deeper pockets than the dog handler.
In my humble opinion, both the handler who put her dog into a bad situation and the parents who did not remove the child or insist the dog be removed way before the incident occurred are the ones at fault. It is too bad the child (and possibly the dog)are the ones who pay the price.
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Re: Are Police Dogs really this unpredictable?
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#364781 - 08/03/2012 06:01 AM |
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IMO, "The truth," "reporting" "full disclosure," "the number of x a FIVE year old was told," won't change a thing.
The fact = a dog severely injuring a child.
The fact= You don't have to believe what anyone says or come to the truth, but the dog shouldn't have been put in that position, and the handler disregarded guidelines that were in place to prevent just such an incident.
The tragedy is that, not only did a dog severely injure a child, but that the dog will be (is being in the media) villefied because of the handler's lack of good judgment.
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#364784 - 08/03/2012 09:40 AM |
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"issued warnings" to a 5 year old? wow.
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