Leaping near you, around you
#365117 - 08/10/2012 04:42 PM |
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My new English Shepherd pup is a leaper. He was a "jumper on- er" but we have stopped that --- he came from a place with multiple big dogs in the home and I think to get noticed leaping, climbing over other dogs, pawing on the back of the owner was a must.
I've been rewarding 4 on the floor, a calm sit etc. but his natural inclination is to leap all around. Very "irish setter" . I just bopped him on the head with a feed scoop, he's a soft guy, that's not the way. Plus he weighs 28 lbs already -at 13 wks -- and I'm just a 97lb old person, I could get knocked down when it's icy in winter.
So what's the fix for this without hurting his feelings? "Stand like a tree", recommended by the breeder, only works when you are in fact, standing still.
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#365118 - 08/10/2012 04:55 PM |
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Stand on the end of the leash - he'll get a correction for jumping that he caused.
But keep trying the redirection and standing still wherever possible.
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#365126 - 08/10/2012 10:45 PM |
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The mark and reward is a great way to handle a soft dog. My younger GSD Trooper is crazy as a loon but super soft. I can crush him with my voice.
When I feed twice a day he used to spin like a top at the sliding glass door and smack into it often. He has little spacial awareness and has knocked over the BBQ pit, lawn furniture, patio table, etc with his "enthusiasm" for fun.
I just would wait till he stood still at the door then mark and out I came with meals. He's very good with markers and it didn't take a couple of days (twice a day feeding) for him to just stand and wait now.
My older dog Thunder is happy about it also because Trooper doesn't slam into him with his "enthusiasm". No more need for Thunder to make corrections for that.
Work with the pup one on one and NOT at feeding time. That's to much distraction for a young pup.
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#365129 - 08/11/2012 08:53 AM |
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Thanks for the inputs.
It's been a LONG TIME (30 yrs?) since I had a big framed floppy loose pup. Likely he'll mature into a serious dog, as his sire and dam are serious, but right now he's a real pup, like a setter or big hound.
Pinker is making corrections, but still cutting the pup slack, seems to be catching some sense of humor from the pup.
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#365132 - 08/11/2012 10:44 AM |
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Hey Betty, sounds like you got a new pup. How exciting!! He sounds like a bundle of energy.
As babies, I think some of them are as interested in us as we can tend to be with them. Most good things seem to come from the hands and the mouth is a real tell tale of what you've been eating as well as a greeting for many before they learn differently.
With babies, the first thing I free shape around the house is a calm down. Any time they lay down calmly, a treat drops from the sky. If they're sleeping (yeah right) I'll often put one in front of their nose for when they wake up, rewarding the calmer state of mind before they're in full overdrive.
When I'm actually delivering treats, I make sure they're released at their level, nose down going into my hand. All fours on the ground, never having to reach or jump up to get it.
I play a lot with them at floor level too. When I'm down with them, it's their opportunity to explore and play with me. When I stand up or am on a piece of furniture, play time stops. They grow out of this fairly quickly, enjoy it while it lasts.
And like Tanith mentioned, the leash, either tethered to you or him dragging it can be a welcome connection and great tool. I don't know that I'd be giving him the jarring step on it but pressure can be applied downward if it's tethered to you, then rewarded when all four are on the floor.
If he's a real Mexican jumping bean, I may even try start to capitalize on that a bit. Have you got a really low box or stair that you can have him jump up on and learn to sit, or course taking his growing bones into consideration.
Sounds like he's really engaged with you though. Congrats on the new addition!! Now I’ve got to go find some pictures.
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#365133 - 08/11/2012 10:54 AM |
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There's a lot of things, I just don't have the patience to wait out for the right behavior Betty. I use a loose kind of place command to stop them when they start getting spun up at the wrong time. My shepherd is sensitive too, but the jumping or the barking or whatever just seems to escalate if I try to ignore it.
Basically, I just make them lay down in a spot where I direct them to. Sometimes he'll look like I just beat him when I say no, but I tell him settle, he lays down, and then he settles down.He gets over it. Its something I work on everyday around a lot of things, just him learning how to hang out.
Its not a big fight like any kind of alpha rolling or anything, and I think its good sometimes for them to lay down and just observe whats going on without having to be in the middle of it.
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#365158 - 08/12/2012 07:31 AM |
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Sounds like you have trained something like Ram from India's command "relax", he's able to tell his dogs "relax" and their whole attitude goes from "on" to "off".
This is my new goal for this dog.
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#365159 - 08/12/2012 07:31 AM |
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Sounds like you have trained something like Ram from India's command "relax", he's able to tell his dogs "relax" and their whole attitude goes from "on" to "off".
This is my new goal for this dog.
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#365161 - 08/12/2012 09:28 AM |
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I may be in the minority here, but if he's just being a rambunctious brat, tell him so with a correction. You're not going to hurt his feelings. He'll learn from it and move on.
Set him up for success, teach him what you want, give him plenty of free time and also down time in a crate. But then if he's being obnoxious let him know that you don't approve. I'd try a growly "hey, knock it off" and get in his space a bit. When he responds back off and carry on as normal.
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#365173 - 08/12/2012 06:59 PM |
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My Cody man is a leaper too, no matter what he does he likes to add a leap after it. He is full of energy and excitement. I have tried correction, etc, but the thing that works the best for my little guy is this: I turn my back, if I can face a wall, and give him absolutely no attention. He has tried to jump on the back of my legs, cry, hop around, bark, but all to no avail. Jumping on me, hits my off switch and I immediately turn around and ignore him. I implement this when going to let him out in the yard. He will usually want to jump all around me. If he jumps I stop, and won't move to let him out. He has tried to push me from behind, if he does that I turn around and ignore him, go to another room, whatever. He comes after me with a puzzled look. As soon as he calms down, I immediately turn around, come back into the room and head for the back door. If I start to open the door, and he moves, it gets closed. This can be frustrating at first for you. But soon they learn, leaping and jumping means I do not get what I want. When I go to take him out for a walk, if he jumps all around at the door, or as I try and put the leash on gets rowdy, I stop what I am doing and leave the room. I drop the leash on the floor and become interested in other things. This really bugs him, he comes to me and sits, as soon as he sits, I pick up the leash and attach it, and head for the door, if he jumps, I stop and act like a statue.
I can say that now when I put his leash on, he waits for me, sits by the door and doesn't charge out. This is a miracle. He is a very high energy dog. it took me quite a while to teach him to heel because he wanted to run everywhere.
Hope this helps. Don't give up, be consistent and firm, do not yell or get excited, it will only excite your dog more.
When I get my dogs attention, that switches on my activity level to on, when they jump, it switches it to off.
May God bless your efforts. Cody is the little black dog
Sharon Empson
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