Humping rottweiler, what is wrong?
#367167 - 09/26/2012 02:50 PM |
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I am getting sick of this, the first male I have had in my 25 years of having rottweilers in my life, he constantly is licking other males privates, and wants to mount them, most are other neutered males, and he is not aggressive in any way, he is over friendly for a rotty, just like a lab, as that is what I tell people, he is a lab in rotty clothing. To me he is not dominant, as he does not get aggressive with them when mounting them, and the licking is really discus sting to me and others. He also does it with a female who comes over who is also fixed. If there are other males around I no longer let him loose. My bro inlaws male neutered boxer was not left alone for 2 days while camping, what is WRONG with this dog, help.
Again, I have had them for a long time and never had a male do this to other males. Gay rotty is what people joke about.
I also try keeping him on leed, and correcting it but doesn't seem to do much. If he was doing it and being aggressive, then I would say dominance, but is this another form?
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Re: Humping rottweiler, what is wrong?
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#367169 - 09/26/2012 02:53 PM |
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Re: Humping rottweiler, what is wrong?
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#367171 - 09/26/2012 03:48 PM |
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There are many here more experienced than me that will respond and I'm not sure about the licking but the humping is a domination thing that dogs will do that has nothing to do with gender or sexual behavior. If the dog that he is mounting doesn't challenge him, no problem. But if you encounter a dog that he tries this with that won't accept the submissive position, you could have a fight.
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Re: Humping rottweiler, what is wrong?
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#367172 - 09/26/2012 05:18 PM |
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Mounting is indeed often a dominance thing. As Kory says, it has nothing to do with gender when it's a display of dominance. I don't allow this. PERIOD. This is not something to take chances with, because the humpee is not always going to submit.
There are other possibilities, too, however :
Does he do this with inanimate objects as well?
Does he have frequent erections?
Has he had a recent urine spec dropped off to be checked for infection? (A UTI is probably the first physical thing I'd be checking for.)
Also, does he have any signs of even slight urinary incontinence? Even minor dribbling in bed, etc.?
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How does this still happen on leash?
("Disgusting" and "gay" are unexpected descriptions coming from experienced dog people about this very common canine behavior.)
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#367173 - 09/26/2012 04:07 PM |
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He has got back lash and just backs off, so its not agression based.
He is 2.5 yrs, so it should of stopped, sure he is not neutered, but none of my others growing up did this. Its really gross.
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#367175 - 09/26/2012 04:17 PM |
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The licking other males privates is the biggest problem, i personally think there is something wrong mentally with him, as he is not doing this to dominate but really thinks is a breeding thing, as he will even wine, I have tried level 3 corrections, and it works, but i have to keep on him. He is an outside dog also, but still gets ran alot and training. Again, I have never seen this with about 6 rottweilers I have owned in my life, not one did this.
WE have friends and family that come as we live in the country, and dogs play together, but now I don't let him so he is left out and tied alone, which makes me sad as he has a very good temp. with people, too good as he is not as calm as a rotty should be either. But that is something else.
Thanks for some info.
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#367177 - 09/26/2012 04:31 PM |
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Left out and tied .... not good.
This is a breed that's particularly prone to obsessive behaviors, and as bad as "tied alone" is for ANY dog, this propensity in the breed toward OCBs increases the damage that can be done this way.
But first:
When did it start?
Does he hump inanimate objects?
Does he have frequent erections?
Has he had a recent urine spec dropped off to be checked for infection? Also, does he have any signs of even slight urinary incontinence? Even minor dribbling in bed, etc.?
Is the licking more pronounced around intact females?
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#367179 - 09/26/2012 04:46 PM |
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I have a male dog is a "humper" by nature and only to male dogs of the labradooodly variety (not people, not inanimate object not other breeds and not small dogs and not females)- and it is a dominance thing and it is super super annoying. Here's what I have done:
You can teach him 'off' and 'up' using a chair. This is reward based training. Up means put his feet on the chair, bench, whatever. Off means all four on the floor. Easy and fun clicker training. This is useful if you do not catch him before the act.
Before the act when he is "getting ready" to mount. You can usually read the dog- he might start doing the licking thing, and his tail goes up, he often gets this concentrated look and goes around to the back of the other dog or puts his paw on the other dog. When he shows any of these signs, give him a known and enforceable command (here or leave-it for example) that he can't do while humping. If he doesn't comply he gets a correction. Period. E-collars, with an e-collar savvy dog works well because it gives you distance control. Make sure the dog is e-collar savvy- you don't want him to associate the correction with the other dog but with disobeying you and with that frame of mind he is in when thinking about the hump (dominant and rather aggressive).
When the dog complies with the command, he gets a jackpot, praise extended treats. I ask him to go by the same dog or do OB around him to get him in a different- more aloof a neutral state of mind. I do not allow a greeting. He must leave the other dog alone completely.
It is not a 'gay' dog thing, but a male can get very fixated on the humping act and just not quit without an alternative behavior and firm correction. If you can catch him when he's in the "humping" frame of mind with command and a correction if needed that is best. And just not allow interaction with other dogs without your say-so. For my male the humping was about controlling the situation and domination- and it can turn to fixation if allowed.
I hope this helps. I also think these types of "humpy" dogs are semi-dominant and aren't really dog-social dogs especially with unfamiliar males. Controlled or no interaction with unfamiliar males is the best solution. I want a neutral dog, not a humper.
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#367181 - 09/26/2012 05:15 PM |
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Breeding thing and even wine, I think thats anthropomorphizing. Tying him out is just going to frustrate him and make him aggressive. It sounds like an obedience thing at this point. You tell him leave it or whatever your command is, he needs to obey it.
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