Ok The mutt and I have things figured out pretty much and his basic OB is pretty solid (at least for me). He doesn't do it when on leash but when we are out exercising off leash(cranking out the miles on the bike/ exploring parks) he has a nasty habit of licking pee 'marks' of I'm assuming females. He will 'leave it' when I tell him too but if I'm not quick enough he will sneak a lick and here comes the nasty foaming/drool. Blach! Nasty hound! He's 2 yr old and intact. Is this something I'm just going to have to watch or is this something I can correct with my remote collar?

(Dogs are so nasty sometimes, between this and the bottom cleaning it's amazing they don't die of infection!)

My dog did that until I neutered him. After that it stopped immediately. I am sure you can train a dog not to, but I am not sure if a remote collar is best. Hopefully someone else will answer with the best way to fix this.

 Quote: Ken Easterling

Ok The mutt and I have things figured out pretty much and his basic OB is pretty solid (at least for me). He doesn't do it when on leash but when we are out exercising off leash(cranking out the miles on the bike/ exploring parks) he has a nasty habit of licking pee 'marks' of I'm assuming females. He will 'leave it' when I tell him too but if I'm not quick enough he will sneak a lick and here comes the nasty foaming/drool. Blach! Nasty hound! He's 2 yr old and intact. Is this something I'm just going to have to watch or is this something I can correct with my remote collar?

(Dogs are so nasty sometimes, between this and the bottom cleaning it's amazing they don't die of infection!)

This is just what dogs do.

http://www.whole-dog-journal.com/issues/7_11/features/Canine-Sense-of-Smell_15668-1.html

Scroll down to Jacobson's Organ. Although pee-tasting is much more pronounced in an intact dog, it's not limited to intact dogs (or to males, in fact). (It's not unusual for it to become rare or to extinguish entirely after neutering, though, as Jonathan mentioned.)

"Jacobson’s Organ
Inside the nasal cavity and opening into the upper part of the mouth is the final piece of the dog’s scent-related puzzle, the remarkable Jacobson’s Organ. Jacobson’s Organ is a “sense of smell” receptor that is actually not receptive to ordinary odors. Rather, the scenting nerve cells of the organ are quite different from those in normal olfactory tissue in that they respond to a range of substances that have large molecules, but often no detectable odor.

The sensory cells of Jacobson’s Organ (which anatomists claim are unlike any other nerve cells) communicate not with the olfactory bulbs and cortex, but with the accessory bulbs and the part of the brain that coordinates mating and other basic emotions. In fact, recent evidence suggests that the two separate but parallel systems of odor detection cooperate in surprising ways to produce novel sensibilities not achievable by either of them on their own.

The primary function of the Organ is to detect pheromones, which then provides both sexes with information as to the availability of the opposite sex for breeding. Additionally the Organ is apparently able to detect other, normally undetectable, odors – odors that may enhance the newborn’s ability to find its own dam, for example. Search and rescue dog handlers notice that many of their dogs lick the air, as if to give additional input into their “scents-ability.” "

It's not "nasty," though, any more than raising their noses to better sniff the air is. It's how they gather information.

Remember that healthy urine is generally sterile. Butt-licking, of course, isn't. Neither is snacking from a litter box, or many of the things dogs do because they are dogs (including eating raw meat). So I don't french-kiss my dogs.

This is JMO, but my dogs march right along on walks, with frequent releases (my decision). When they are released from "let's go," I don't care if they sniff, etc.

But if I did care, I would proof my yuck or leave-it better. I've never needed an e-collar for yuck or leave-it, but I train it well, with plenty of proofing, then distance added, etc.

So I'd back up and improve the leave-it command (unless it's just you who are too slow). I mean, if he is not complying, then the command is not well-trained. But iIf you're not quick enough with the command, an e-collar will not make you quicker.

All JMO!

He is maturing, is intact & is a typical behavior for an adult breed ready male. Teach him a leave it command & inforce it. You need to stay one step ahead of him to catch him before he does it. At least until he 'gets it' that the behavoir is just not allowed.

My male has been taught that he can't do that unless I totally release him....which I only do in certain places. Otherwise he would be peeing everywhere.

 Quote: Anne Jones

He is maturing, it is intact & is a typical behavior for an adult breed ready male. Teach him a leave it command & enforce it.

What she said.

Connie & I were typing at the same time. :-)

Ken has he started chattering while he is doing it yet? LOL

I forgot that part. Almost like wine-tasters .....

LOL

 Quote: Connie Sutherland

I forgot that part. Almost like wine-tasters .....

LOL

With some Fava Beans and a nice Kay-antie?

you should be observing his body language well enough that you can tell when he is ABOUT to do it . that is the time to " leave it ! " , mark and reward .

don't use a punishing tone , just use a " hey , i've got something better over here ! " remember , what he thinks of as rare , exotic fragrances you think is disgusting . you think it's bad but he doesn't , just show him a better reward for learning to ignore it .

aside note , think long and hard about leaving that dog intact , 'cause that is only one of several ( undesirable ) behaviours he might be prone to .

imo , if you don't have firm plans to use him for breeding , it ain't worth the bother .

 Quote: ian bunbury

.... side note , think long and hard about leaving that dog intact , 'cause that is only one of several (undesirable) behaviours he might be prone to .

Thinking long and hard is great advice! In fact, I opened another thread about it.

http://leerburg.com/webboard/thread.php?topic_id=32756&page=1#368083


I was thinking (after a PM pointed it out .... ) that it might be useful to separate the pee-licking from the general neutering topic, even though they're so closely connected, because one of the topics is so much broader and multi-dimensional (and because I just finished a huge work project and can start a new thread without major "should be working" guilt ).