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#376549 - 04/15/2013 08:01 PM |
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Hi Guys, been a long time since I've logged in to the site but once again I'm back on the board since I just got a new pup to be friends with my ageing Levi. I have always had purebred dogs and since the wild hair struck me and I went to a rescue to get a newbie Im somewhat stumped on what to do with this mixture of what, I dont know, breed. This is what I know..Female, around 4-5 months since half her teeth have yet to come in, one ear almost stands, one ear goes back and forth. Facial features looks like maybe a mix of Shepherd/Pit/Boxer/Black Mouth Cur. I have no idea what to exspect because I have no idea what she is. What I do know is she can jump off the ground with ease up onto a dining room table, she eats her own poop and she is the most loving, affectionate little turd ever! I've never had a jumper or a poop eater! Advice on these issues would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: New PUP!
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#376551 - 04/15/2013 08:22 PM |
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Hi, Robbin,
About poop-eating :
Here's an old post I found (in reply to someone else):
I'd walk him on a leash and not let him do that. I would pick up the poops as soon as he
makes 'em.
There are some other "remedies" for pica, and some people swear by them. My own favorite has always been not to allow it. I think 18 months is plenty old enough to teach "leave it" and/or "drop it." too.
JMO....
But the biggie to start immediately is to start a journal so you know poop time (as it relates to meal time) and always take the dog out on lead then, walk briskly to trigger peristalsis, and then walk away from the poop. Have treats with you for the turning away goody.
This was written without reference to tethering, which I wish I had learned decades before I did.
I tether all new additions to me at first. That is, the dog is attached by a piece of a line or leash to my jeans loop or belt.
This is hugely informative about body language around potty needs. It enhances bonding, too.
And marker training would be worked into any poop-and-turn-away-from-it routine for me now, too.
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I think many (like me) have one or both eyes on Boston news (after the bombings this afternoon) .... but I know that others are going to be lots more help.
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#376553 - 04/15/2013 08:30 PM |
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Thanks Connie! Nice to see you are still fighting the good fight here at Leerburg!!
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#376558 - 04/15/2013 10:13 PM |
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From a medical perspective poop eating causes some wicked parasite problems. So if the dog is new to you a fecal would be in order.
Some cheap dog foods have a flavoring agent which travels unchanged thru the GI tract, leaves the body smelling as good as it did in the dish,apparently. Starts this nasty habit which can be tough to break.
A quality kibble or raw diet will help.
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#376559 - 04/15/2013 10:21 PM |
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I do have her on a good protein kibble and I have wondered if maybe parasites are an issue because I've never seen a puppy go so much, at least not on a quality dog food. She also came to us with Kennel Cough which we have been fighting, even my cats have become sick. Are the worm/parasite options you find at petsmart any good or should I look for a prescription?
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#376561 - 04/16/2013 05:01 AM |
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Robin, you should take fecal samples to your vet so they can tell you exactly which type of parasites the dog has (if any). That way, you can get the proper medicine.
"A dog wags his tail with his heart." Max Buxbaum
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#376562 - 04/16/2013 06:34 AM |
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If she came from a shelter likely she has had a broad spectrum dewormer. But if she eats stool the dosing may not have eliminated the problem.
I think that using over the counter dewormers initially is not a bad plan, while you break this
stool eating habit and move her to a good diet. It's not best though, because over the counter drugs are pretty weak.
It's always best to have a fecal --- doing one now and repeating it in a month or so would be the best plan. Whipworm and hookworm might be resistant to over the counter dewormers. So a fecal would be the best way to go.
Your dog looks like she has some cattle dog, herding dog in her background, she looks like a
"wonderful mutt", smart, loving and unique. A good mutt is hard to beat!
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#376567 - 04/16/2013 08:54 AM |
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I've read great things about adding a spoonful of crushed pineapple to their food to make them stop eating the poop. I've never had to try it for myself though. I think having her on a short leash (not a flexi...) and picking up the poop right away would give you a pretty good handle on the situation.
Enjoy your new puppy and have fun!
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#376573 - 04/16/2013 09:20 AM |
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The worming issue: I'm 100% with Betty and Elaine about having a fecal done.
I've heard the crushed pineapple thing, too, and many more. But I've read way more posts here and on other boards saying that nothing added to food worked than I've read about ones that worked on a dog here and a dog there.
A good diet is paramount, of course, because of poor-nutrition-related pica, and you have done that.
From the standpoint of the habit having developed, period: This, IMO, really needs intervention. And it's not difficult; it just takes observation and organization. Worth it, to me, to interrupt the habit. And you need to teach yuck or leave it anyway, so ......
About that jumping onto the table ..... pup on drag line or tethered to you or both, alternated. This is really a management issue with a dog who is so new to you, as you train, I think. She a new pup, no training : no run-of-house privileges yet. JMO!
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#376578 - 04/16/2013 11:00 AM |
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I agree Betty on the herding/cattle dog, which brings me back to Black Mouth Cur which is used for herding and for treeing. apparently there is no better hunting hound than the Cur. I will do the fecal and start with that. Thanks for the advice.
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