Hello Everyone,
I was wondering what the meanings of Vom, von, von der, Haus,dei, are as it pertains to registry names. I have also heard that some use french names as well, does anyone know them and their meaning?
Thanks!

I've been told that haus is 'home'and in this case means 'kennel'. Vom is 'from'. River vom Topper haus would be my dog from my kennel name if I had one. All the rest I'm assuming is the same only said different ways since German has a lot of multiple words for the same thing and they usually denote gender or respect.

Yes, I think that the prepositions "vom," "von," "vom dem," etc., mean "from" and "from the" or "of" and "of the."



"I have also heard that some use french names as well, does anyone know them and their meaning?"


Like what?

Great!I am going to try to get my dog a BH in Shutzhund, a good friend of my name stated that I would have to use the breeders last name ( of the yoders ) instead of my intended last name of vom haus Cruz. Is this correct?
As far as french names, I meant Dei which i think means from, I was researching this a couple of weeks ago and ran into some of them.

The dog's registered name typically contains the breeder's kennel name, example: Zeke vom Leerburg. Think of the kennel name as the dog's last name.

The use of the German words like vom, von, etc. is customary. No real reaon, we just do it that way. In the US, the kennels are sometimes contrived, Teutonic-sounding words -- example: vom BarkenLaudin.

If your dog is a purebred, then the breeder should have provided the registration papers

If the dog is not registered, you can name it what ever you want. Its scorebook will, however, record it as a 'Mixed Breed'.

To do the BH, you will need a scorebook from whatever sanctioning organization you wish to use.
All breeds and mixed breeds - USCA, DVG;
German Shepherds - USCA, WDA;
Specific other breeds (See the AWDF website for a listing).

To get the scorebook, contact the appropriate breed or Schutzhund organization. They will normally require that you join their group in order to get a scorebook.

It's also generally helpful to join a schutzhund club or other similar training group.

The BH Rules can be downloaded from USCA website.
http://www.GermanShepherdDog.com

And Schutzhund is spelled with a 'c'. ;D

Good luck with your pup!

The pup did come with papers. However online its asking for the pups name which is why I was wondering what to put. So for this pup since I got it from a breeder it would be the breeders kennel name. Now if this pup had a litter and I were to register the litter and keep one of the puppies would it be under my kennel name our the original kennel name.
Im kind of confused regarding this topic.

The pup did come with papers. However online its asking for the pups name which is why I was wondering what to put. So for this pup since I got it from a breeder it would be the breeders kennel name. Now if this pup had a litter and I were to register the litter and keep one of the puppies would it be under my kennel name our the original kennel name.
Im kind of confused regarding this topic.

If your dog has a litter the pups would named under your kennel name. The papers you got with your pup should have the kennel name on it. That should tell you your pups full registered name.

Unless the breeder specified that the pup be registered with a kennel name (some do) then you can name the pup anything you want to as long as the name is unique. There's no rule that says it has to include a kennel name.

If you start your own kennel, then you can name pups you breed using that kennel name (or not) or require pups you sell to include the kennel name (or not).

Von and Vom mean the same thing--"of" or "from." Vom is actually a contraction of "Von dem". The difference is one of German grammar. In German, like many languages except English, nouns have a gender--masculine, feminine, or neuter. The gender of the noun determines the style of article or preposition associated with the noun.

To be clear--it has nothing to do with the gender of the dog. In German, the name of the kennel (a noun) has a gender. That's what would determine whether Von or Vom is grammatically correct. But this only matters if you are actually German or are trying to pay tribute to a breed's German heritage by having a kennel name in the German language.

An American bred dog named "Jackhammer" could also be called Greenwood's Jackhammer (from a kennel named Greenwood) or Jackhammer Greenwood. Or anything else you come up with. There's no requirement for Vom or Von.

Jackhammer Von Grunwald would be the German styling--because Grunwald (Green Wood) is a masculine noun.

But it would be Jackhammer Vom Grunbirke for a kennel named "Green birch" because that's a feminine noun. There's little rhyme or reason to the gender of German nouns. German speakers just learn the gender as part of the word as they learn each noun as a child. To them it's just part of the word.

So to get it right, you have to 1. Know the kennel name, 2. Know the gender of that name in German, and 3. Want to affect German language styling. Unless the kennel name is in German, inserting a German preposition seems a little silly, IMO.

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Unless the breeder specified that the pup be registered with a kennel name (some do) then you can name the pup anything you want to as long as the name is unique. There's no rule that says it has to include a kennel name.

If you start your own kennel, then you can name pups you breed using that kennel name (or not) or require pups you sell to include the kennel name (or not).

Von and Vom mean the same thing--"of" or "from." Vom is actually a contraction of "Von dem". The difference is one of German grammar. In German, like many languages except English, nouns have a gender--masculine, feminine, or neuter. The gender of the noun determines the style of article or preposition associated with the noun.

To be clear--it has nothing to do with the gender of the dog. In German, the name of the kennel (a noun) has a gender. That's what would determine whether Von or Vom is grammatically correct. But this only matters if you are actually German or are trying to pay tribute to a breed's German heritage by having a kennel name in the German language.

An American bred dog named "Jackhammer" could also be called Greenwood's Jackhammer (from a kennel named Greenwood) or Jackhammer Greenwood. Or anything else you come up with. There's no requirement for Vom or Von.

Jackhammer Von Grunwald would be the German styling--because Grunwald (Green Wood) is a masculine noun.

But it would be Jackhammer Vom Grunbirke for a kennel named "Green birch" because that's a feminine noun. There's little rhyme or reason to the gender of German nouns. German speakers just learn the gender as part of the word as they learn each noun as a child. To them it's just part of the word.

So to get it right, you have to 1. Know the kennel name, 2. Know the gender of that name in German, and 3. Want to affect German language styling. Unless the kennel name is in German, inserting a German preposition seems a little silly, IMO.

My brain is full now!

PS
What a great answer!