Natalie Rynda wrote 10/20/2013 05:42 PM Dry liver as a % of raw #384697 - 10/20/2013 05:42 PM
Natalie Rynda Webboard User Reg: 10-01-2013 Posts: 343 Loc: nyc Offline	I use a lot of dry liver treats. Liver should be 5% of the diet for raw, how do I convert that so that I don't over feed the liver (I read that it's dangerous to do so)
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/20/2013 06:08 PM Re: Dry liver as a % of raw [Re: Natalie Rynda ] #384699 - 10/20/2013 06:08 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Do you have a link to the product? Or do you mean that you are oven-drying it yourself?
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Natalie Rynda wrote 10/20/2013 06:18 PM Re: Dry liver as a % of raw [Re: Natalie Rynda ] #384701 - 10/20/2013 06:18 PM
Natalie Rynda Webboard User Reg: 10-01-2013 Posts: 343 Loc: nyc Offline	It's this one, about 10 calories each, I wasn't sure how many calories are in the 2 lbs of raw a day that I give. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000Z3ODRI
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/20/2013 06:34 PM Re: Dry liver as a % of raw [Re: Natalie Rynda ] #384702 - 10/20/2013 06:34 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	http://www.amazon.com/PureBites-Beef-Liver-Treats-16-6/dp/B000Z3ODTG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1382311499&sr=8-2&keywords=pure+bites OK, fresh beef liver runs about 40 calories per ounce, so these would each be about 1/4 ounce worth. (I wanted the link to make sure it had only one ingredient.) You want to provide about 1.5 to about 3.2 ounces of organ meat a day for a dog eating 2 pounds of raw a day. Four of these would equal about 1 ounce fresh.
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Natalie Rynda wrote 10/20/2013 06:38 PM Re: Dry liver as a % of raw [Re: Natalie Rynda ] #384703 - 10/20/2013 06:38 PM
Natalie Rynda Webboard User Reg: 10-01-2013 Posts: 343 Loc: nyc Offline	Ohh lol I see how you do this. Thank you so much))))
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/20/2013 06:51 PM Re: Dry liver as a % of raw [Re: Natalie Rynda ] #384705 - 10/20/2013 06:51 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	That wouldn't work for everything .... you'd usually have to do the steps of a dry matter conversion. But with one freeze-dried ingredient, it's pretty straightforward.
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Natalie Rynda wrote 10/20/2013 06:58 PM Re: Dry liver as a % of raw [Re: Natalie Rynda ] #384707 - 10/20/2013 06:58 PM
Natalie Rynda Webboard User Reg: 10-01-2013 Posts: 343 Loc: nyc Offline	I'm only feeding one ingredient things. I'm a little stuck with treats, I'm having problems finding treats for him. He loves liver but I can't do it all the time. What else is there? Since I started raw I'm afraid to give him any treats that have ANYTHING but meat in them. Am I overdoing it? What do you give?
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/20/2013 07:18 PM Re: Dry liver as a % of raw [Re: Natalie Rynda ] #384709 - 10/20/2013 07:18 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	http://leerburg.com/webboard/thread.php?topic_id=33073&page=2#372860 http://leerburg.com/webboard/thread.php?topic_id=33560&page=1#381135 Many more, using TREATS as the search term in "advanced search" (upper right on your screen) and expanding the date range.
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Natalie Rynda wrote 10/20/2013 07:33 PM Re: Dry liver as a % of raw [Re: Natalie Rynda ] #384712 - 10/20/2013 07:33 PM
Natalie Rynda Webboard User Reg: 10-01-2013 Posts: 343 Loc: nyc Offline	I guess i didn't explain this right (I didn't read the 2nd thread yet and only half of first) 1. I thought you couldn't mix kibble with raw and treats are considered kibble in a way, no? 2. In my experience, once he switched to raw he became much pickier. I guess I'm worried he won't like it. You feed raw as well, I guess I'm safe picking everything you said you give in those threads.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/21/2013 03:51 PM Re: Dry liver as a % of raw [Re: Natalie Rynda ] #384713 - 10/21/2013 03:51 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	No. Soft training treats aren't kibble. I personally don't mix kibble with raw, but there are dozens of other choices for food rewards on those threads. IME, Leerburg carries more "real food" training treats than any other source I've seen ... and not wheat gluten from China. One baked boneless skinless chicken breast yields dozens of M&M size rewards. All detailed in the links I posted above. I like a mixed bag ... also described in those threads. I think many members here use a mixed bag when they can. Here is my "bag" ... http://leerburg.com/736.htm?gclid=CJnbmPHYproCFS9eQgodnjIAlw
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