I have a 17 month old,neutered GSD male who is grabbing my arms when I am trying to correct him when he gets all riled up and/or when I push him away from me. He also do this when I refuse to play with him. Now his teeth hurts and I am getting worried. He is a high drive dog with high prey and hunt drive. He ONLY does this to me and my husband. I have tried to shake hime in the ruff, down him etc. He is obediant trained and very sweet otherwise. Please , give me some advise.
Agneta
How are you correcting him? Are you physically grabbing him, or correcting with a leash? E-Collar? I can understand him grabbing you when you push him away. They often think you are playing with them even though you are serious. My dogs do this too. If I push my pup away he comes back even harder and more determined. If I'm not in the mood to wrestle with him, I redirect him to an immediate obedience command or crate him for awhile. I think you need to explain in a little better detail what he is doing, and exactly how you are correcting him for the undesirable behavior.
No way no how should your dog be holding you and hurting you with his mouth. Have him wear a pinch collar around the house with a short leash attached - when the situation arises and tries to grap you, let him have it, make it a good correction and not a half hearted one - he needs to know that this is unaceptable. He will learn this very quickly.
He does this grabbing of my arms when I take an item that does not belong to him. (I can take any of his toys and food away from him without any problems) and when he playes. During play he escalates sometimes and when I tell him NO he begins to "challange" me and when I try to grab him this is when he grabs my arms. I have taken him by the scruff and shaken him since he was a pup, also tried to correct him with a prong collar.( Maybe I am not correcting him hard enough!) I usually crate him after each incident and when he initially is put in the crate he acts really mad and tries to "scratch" himself out of the crate. He usually calmes down after 30 sec.. I have an E collar but I am afraid to use it. What if he clamps down when he get the stim? For your information, I have another (handicapped) 8 yr old GSD male in the household and my pup has been bulling him since he was a pup. My older one was very tolerant with him and did not corrected him when he was little. I probably need to be more forceful in my corrections. Should I use the e-collar?
Personally I wouldn't grab him. I think this is only escalating the aggression. I would put his prong collar on with his lead attached and snatch the crap out of him or use the e-collar as David suggested. It sounds like you are afraid of the dog which isn't helping either. You need to be the alpha and the one in control. Your dog needs to understand that you are the boss. In addition, there he may have a negative association with the word "No". You can change your command to something like "Out" or "Phooie" and retrain him. It also sounds to me like this dog needs more obedience training. JMO, Good luck!
Thank you all for your suggestions. I will try the prong collar first and if that does not help go to the E-collar. No John, I am not afraid of the dog, I am just unsure how to handle the situation. My other 2 shepherds was a piece of cake to train. This one is head strong. Also, I have never had to "hurt" any of them. I will get tough!
Thank you all for your suggestions. I will try the prong collar first and if that does not help go to the E-collar. No John, I am not afraid of the dog, I am just unsure how to handle the situation. My other 2 shepherds was a piece of cake to train. This one is head strong. Also, I have never had to "hurt" any of them. I will get tough!
I understand where your coming from, but you have a control problem when your dog is in drive. Plus you stated:
Quote: "I have an E collar but I am afraid to use it. What if he clamps down when he get the stim?"
This suggests to me that you are afraid of correcting him. In addition, I'm not suggesting that you hurt the dog when you correct him. You say the dog is obedience trained but that obviously isn't the case if he is reacting towards you with aggression.
Then you said: "I have another (handicapped) 8 yr old GSD male in the household and my pup has been bulling him since he was a pup. My older one was very tolerant with him and did not corrected him when he was little."
So not only did the other dog allow him to bully him, I get the feeling you allowed it too. I'd be willing to bet this dog has been getting his way for too long and you have allowed him to be the dominant "member" of the family. I'm not trying to pick on you or make you angry, but you need to get a handle on this situation. I would research the articles Ed has written on this site about dominance in dogs. JMO
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