Re: biting problems?
#32760 - 07/16/2001 06:21 PM |
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Go back into my web site and read the Q&A sections that relate to behavioral problems, the puppy questions. The answers are there
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Re: Re: biting problems?
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#32761 - 07/17/2001 04:27 PM |
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Carly you have to first determine why he is biting. Is it out of prey, fear or dominance. If he is prey biting you simple must redirect him to another prey item. This is done through correcting him when he bites you then giving him his new prey item with lots of praise. Dominance usually shows his ugly head with his food or toys. There are many ways to solve this. I personally (as does Ed) recommend less experience handlers to avoid the problem rather than confront it. This is done by not allowing him any toys and to remove his food after a short period (When he is not in the room). Fear biters are a product of weak genes and as harsh as it sounds should be put to sleep or at least kenneled at all time (possible guard dog if it has weak nerves and barks easily.)
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#32762 - 07/18/2001 10:27 AM |
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Carly-
Is this dog one that you played with as a pup, at which time it was cute and fun, but now as a bigger dog, is out of control?
If so, I would recommend working the dog in general obedience, and be firm, but not harsh. Perhaps then you can get your point across and when the biting gets out of hand, a verbal correction will tell the dog the line has been crossed, to knock it off.
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#32763 - 07/30/2001 09:23 AM |
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Whats with all the freudian psych crap? Whats do dogs do when another dog bites them? Do they anylyse the offending dogs behaviour, do they put him on the couch and ask about his mum and dad and the kennel he came from? No. They make a quick fight or flight choice, if its flight thye either run away or roll over and urinate, cower etc. or if its fight they rip into the bitter. You dont have the choice of running away cause if you do your dog will become a potential danger to you and everyone around it so you have to 'attack' back. Put a check chain on him and sling him over a fence for a while next time he trys and bites you. Let him dance on air for a minute or so and he'll learn to respect you rather than seeing you as a doormat.
No doubt many will say this is crule and Im a sick unit, ask them if they'll pay your medical (or funeral) bill when fido really goes to town on you. Or your lawyers bill when he gets into someone else.
The obedience advice is a very good idea, anything to establish the pack order with you at the apex. But a good choking the instant he trys to bite will be a good opening gambit.
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#32764 - 07/30/2001 09:47 AM |
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I think you are jumping the gun here. Choking the dog out should be the last resort not the first resort to solving biting problems. Now if we are talking about an very dominant adult dog that is really trying to bite the handler then this needs to be considered, but if its a young dog who is acting stupid then there are many other things to try first.
I have detailed training article on my web site (along with Q&A sections) on dealing with dominant dogs, on dealing with overly aggressive dogs. There are many things to be consiered here.
I don't want new trainers to be out there flinging their dogs over the back yard fence and like dirty laundry. What would the neighbors think? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> If you are going to do that - let the dog bite you while they are watching first. Then you will have a solid defense if the dog dies.
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#32765 - 07/30/2001 10:00 AM |
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I stand corrected, listen to Eds advice not my rabid ravings. But if the touchy feely approach dosent work..... let him dance on air like fred astair
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#32766 - 07/30/2001 02:11 PM |
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Brendan,your comment on hanging a dog by its choker is exactly what has caused all the problems in the UK.The police did it,result police dog trainers jailed and public outrage.Result is that they are now trying to ban every type of training aid that the do gooders dont like,including Ecollars.
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#32767 - 07/30/2001 05:44 PM |
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I'd be interested to hear more about the police dog trainers being jailed for hangin up their dogs.
I dont say it is the response for everydog misbehaviour. But if youll look at the question I responded to youll see were talking about a pitbull cross, not your aunties king charles spaniel or one of your candy arsed, try hard, would be if they could be rotts.(sorry I had to give you a burn after your personal attack on me) Pit bulls have high pain threshold levels.
But you go ahead with the softly softly John Lennon / dalai lama approach, the dog will spot you for the weakling you are and will continue to bite, eventually youll be 'hanging out the laundry' as well. either that or carting the dog off to be hot shotted by the local vet, (cause you lack the ticker to shoot it yourself).
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#32768 - 07/30/2001 06:35 PM |
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This is exactly the sort of individual that should not be allowed to own an APBT.
Brendan, please find another breed.
-Ted
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