I have a 14 month old pit mix. I have the leerburg basic obedience tape and it worked great. Using the prong collar made leash walking a pleasure. He knows all basic commands on leash and off leash indoors. My problem is if he is off leash in the yard and I want to take him out for a walk he will come to me then bolt away.He will then come back and bump my hand with his nose,and somtimes nip.I know if I use a treat he will obey but he will try to get the treat and take off.thanks for any suggestions. Jerry
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What I do is teach my dogs to sit prior to putting on the leash. If they don't sit they don't get to go work. Now they get really excited when you pick up the leash and run to the door and sit and wait for their leash to go on. I am not willing to chase them around because they are excited to go work. It is obedience after all, expect the dog to be obedient and sit so you can put the leash on!!!
If you can't be a Good Example,then You'll just have to Serve as a Horrible Warning. Catherine Aird.
It sounds to me like your dog is not that bonded to you. Using treats will not get your dog to bond to you. If possible, I would suggest you spend a lot of time with your dog, take him with you, have him at your side constantly. Assuming you're nice to your dog, your dog should bond with you. Once you've bonded more then attach a 30 foot lead to his prong and tell him to come. As he comes praise the hell out of him! But if he hesitates, pop him good and say "No!" (or whatever is your correction) and then tell him again to "Come!" and if necessary, start reeling him in and praise him like crazy. Never, ever punish him when he comes to know, no matter how upset you might be about something. Put the treats away for now and be his buddy; he'll be yours! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
Good post...but. Yes the dreaded but. Let's go to the video tape. Food is one of the best tools for bonding. Food, grooming and long walks together are the three best actions to bonding. 2nd. After you pop the dog and he comes running to you add and intermittent food or play reward. Please refer to Richard’s post on the value on intermittent food rewards. He is right on the money.
Feeding, grooming and long walks sounds good to me to help the bonding. But I would be inclined to believe that most any positve/fun time with one's dog is going to help the bond, agreed?
As for the food, I believe the poster said the dog would come to him to get the treat and then take off again. The dog seems to view his handler as a treat dispenser. And so I thought it might be advisable to curtail the treats in favor of quality time, kind of like spending time with your dad playing catch or doing something as opposed to him not spending much time with you but bringing you gifts all the time.
That was my take on the situation. But please let me know where that post was. I'd like to read it. Thanks again!
My fault. I was going to go into the relationship between drive and compulsion. But I went over that so many times I am boring people to death. So I went into food and bonding instead. Again I liked your post I just added my spin to it. As far as intermittent food reward either read weaning off food thread, email Richard directly or buy Purely Positive book from Ed.
I noticed something else in Jerry's post that may be a given but is worth mentioning. Dogs are notoriously poor generalists. Just because the dog does good off lead obedience in the house doesn't mean that it will carry over to the yard, which wouldn't carry over to the park...... The training needs to be done in as many places as possible so that you increase the probability that the dog will respond when required.
If you can't be a Good Example,then You'll just have to Serve as a Horrible Warning. Catherine Aird.
...and the more Jerry (and any of us, for that matter) takes his dogs places the less sensational they will be for his dog and the easier it will become. Build the bond and communicate with your dog, you'll be fine. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
In addition to taking the dog different places to train, as Richard pointed out, also gradually increase the distraction level. And if you can, train at different times.
Video tape or no, food is only one of the best tools for bonding if thats what you choose to use. I find that working with my dogs is the best bond building activity - working in situations where you show the dog it can trust you, and you also learn to trust the dog. Build trust by working through different types of stressful situations. I've found nothing better. So far...
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