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I don't have a link, but I can tell you what worked for me. Get an old big spoon and wrap the handle with some tape (I used three layers of old-fashioned masking tape.) As he gets used to holding the spoon (using markers). Over time (interval depends on the dog), I would remove a layer of tape at a time, until the tape was gone and only metal left. I also separately made the spoon itself less revolting by feeding something delicious from the bowl of it at different times through out the day. I was later told by a trainer friend that he always made sure that puppies had been fed occasionally with a metal spoon .. I guess it is a common aversion. Good luck, it worked for me.
In the AKC Utility test the dog has to retrieve a metal object and a leather object. Both usually in the form of a small dumbell.
Using Mary K's method the AKC folks would give treats such as ice cream, peanut butter, etc on a spoon.
I would also start from scratch and back chain the retrieve with markers and a spoon, piece of copper pipe, PVC, whatever and use a VERY high value reward for the "take" and the "hold".
I don't have a link, but I can tell you what worked for me. Get an old big spoon and wrap the handle with some tape (I used three layers of old-fashioned masking tape.) As he gets used to holding the spoon (using markers). Over time (interval depends on the dog), I would remove a layer of tape at a time, until the tape was gone and only metal left. I also separately made the spoon itself less revolting by feeding something delicious from the bowl of it at different times through out the day. I was later told by a trainer friend that he always made sure that puppies had been fed occasionally with a metal spoon .. I guess it is a common aversion. Good luck, it worked for me.
I did something almost exactly like this. I took a section of an old aluminum lawn chair and wrapped it with electrical tape. I played fetch with the dog and he had no problem picking up the wrapped pipe. I didn't remove layers...I removed an inch of tape at a time beginning in the middle to expose the aluminum when the dog showed no aversion to the retrieval. It wasn't long before he would retrieve a bare pipe. I then went to heavier pipes of different materials. Worked pretty good.
I have no idea if Thunder would retrieve a metal pipe but he's destroyed a few stainless bowls over the yrs.
Gonna check that out with a piece of copper pipe!
I have no idea if Thunder would retrieve a metal pipe but he's destroyed a few stainless bowls over the yrs.
Gonna check that out with a piece of copper pipe!
Nothing ruder than being woke up by a dog at 2 am playing "kick the can" with a metal bowl in the kennel. Mine tosses it around like a cat playing with a mouse. I go outside to bless him out and he's standing there with the bowl in his mouth and a look on his face with a "What"? expression.
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