I am looking for a Shutzhund friendly place to train my new GSD puppy in the southeast Michigan area, any thoughts or leads from my doggy-friendly-friends out there? :-)
thanks so much!
Leah & Mera-dog leah1003@aol.com
if you do what you have always done, you wil get what you have always gotten.
well...from what I understand, pet and conformation obedience can have a different set of rules or way of training vs having a Shutzhund puppy in training...any thoughts?
if you do what you have always done, you wil get what you have always gotten.
well...from what I understand, pet and conformation obedience can have a different set of rules or way of training vs having a Shutzhund puppy in training...any thoughts?
Similar but slightly different.
AKC requires a right about turn where Schutzhund has two choices. Both require a left about turn on the part of the handlers.
AKC is also done in a very small ring compaired to Schutzhund and often inside.
AKC ring is about 40' x 40' and Schutzhund is about the size of a soccer field.
AKC the judge calls out all and every move. forward, left turn, about turn, fast, slow, halt, etc.
Schutzhund you could do the complete routine with little comment from the judge.
AKC requires a "stay" command when you leave the dog.
Schutzhund that would loose points for a second command.
AKC shows can be VERY crowded. People can stand right outside that ring and it's not uncommon for some kid to be standing there eating a hot dog. People sitting in chairs with their dogs next to them. Elbow to elbow with people and outer dogs while your trying to get to ringside with your dog.
Schutzhund you are rarely very close to any of the public viewers or other dogs other then one other dog when you check in with the judge.
These are just a sample but if the dog is trained properly there is no reason you can't do both. It's not uncommon.
I live in SE Michigan, too. If you're anywhere near Ann Arbor, you might want to look into Northfield Dog Training. They are primarily an AKC-style obedience and agility facility, but I have been in competition obedience classes there and had a guy who was also a schutzhund trainer in my class. Adele, the owner/instructor, was very accommodating to the differences in turns, hand position in heeling, etc. If you're interested, you could get in touch with her,explain what you're looking for, and see if she has a class that would fit.
Just want to mention that I looked very briefly at the Dan Morris site mentioned in the post above and was surprised to see that one of their rules is no playing tug with your dog.
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And their very first rule is "No Treats!". Those rules over all are a bit strange. They seem to be kind of thrown together. Ice cubes would make my boy puke.
I'd make sure to observe a class. I'm getting an old school "yank and crank" vibe from them. The photos show dogs wearing ill-fitting prong collars and not the happiest expressions.
how did I miss the no treat, sad doggy-pics etc on that site?? well to my own defense I have a newborn & I'm a very tired mommy! I'm glad I posted in here & got all this great feedback!
my last few dogs I trained at Northfield :-) I'll just send them a quick message & get back in with them, thanks so much everyone!
if you do what you have always done, you wil get what you have always gotten.
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