Peter Cavallaro wrote 01/22/2015 10:23 PM getting to a new trick. #396467 - 01/22/2015 10:23 PM
Peter Cavallaro Webboard User Reg: 07-09-2010 Posts: 536 Loc: Offline	how can I progress this, started as a front then morphed into a beg thing decided to turn it into a sort of barky & holdy thing. I want to go a full funner bark & hold. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Faxr3N3UiDg
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Bob Scott wrote 01/22/2015 10:55 PM Re: getting to a new trick. [Re: Peter Cavallaro ] #396469 - 01/22/2015 10:55 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	1. The goal is to get the sit up solid with command and the tug as the reward. .2 Get him to hold a lesser object with the bite tug as reward. .3 Get him to sit up with the lesser item in his mouth and the bite tug as reward. Each step should be solid separately before putting them together. Ror this "trick" I would stop using the tug as a reward for the situp. Once he has the tug the behavior is over and there is no reason for him to hold the sit. It's the same way I like to teach the retrieve. To many use the dumbell as a prey item simply because the dog will chase it. It should be just another behavior learned in order to get the reward (tug). Same with a hold and sit up. He needs a clear path to the tug as a reward. Holding the reward and sitting up is counter productive in the initial training simply because he was given the tug BEFORE he was asked to perform the sit and hold behavior. Make sense? old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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Bob Scott wrote 01/22/2015 11:13 PM Re: getting to a new trick. [Re: Peter Cavallaro ] #396470 - 01/22/2015 11:13 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	DUH! My bad! You want to build a bark and hold for the tug correct? Frustration is the key. Tie him out. Stand a couple of paces in front of him where he cant get to you. When he barks out of frustration mark, step in and reward even if it's just a simple woof from him. He'll catch on that the noise gets a reward. If he already knows to bark on command then give him the command while he's in front of you. It wont take long at all before he's barking his head off and jumping up and down in front of you because he knows that is rewardable. Don't reward if he starts jumping on you. You want h old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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Peter Cavallaro wrote 01/22/2015 11:16 PM Re: getting to a new trick. [Re: Peter Cavallaro ] #396471 - 01/22/2015 11:16 PM
Peter Cavallaro Webboard User Reg: 07-09-2010 Posts: 536 Loc: Offline	makes sense, wet weekend but I might try it inside the house, I have a general rule of no tug/games inside but... thanks for tips.
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Bob Scott wrote 01/22/2015 11:36 PM Re: getting to a new trick. [Re: Peter Cavallaro ] #396475 - 01/22/2015 11:36 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	If he's in the house a lot just know you may be creating a monster. I did a lot of training with my terriers in the house but noise and rough housing was a no go. old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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Peter Cavallaro wrote 01/22/2015 11:41 PM Re: getting to a new trick. [Re: Peter Cavallaro ] #396476 - 01/22/2015 11:41 PM
Peter Cavallaro Webboard User Reg: 07-09-2010 Posts: 536 Loc: Offline	meh on second thoughts, I think I will train in the rain rather than break routine (and possibly house).
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Jorry Tommy wrote 02/03/2015 11:35 AM Re: getting to a new trick. [Re: Peter Cavallaro ] #396733 - 02/03/2015 11:35 AM
Jorry Tommy Webboard User Reg: 01-17-2015 Posts: 2 Loc: Offline	Thanks for sharing this video Jorry F. Tommy
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Peter Cavallaro wrote 02/03/2015 02:25 PM Re: getting to a new trick. [Re: Peter Cavallaro ] #396742 - 02/03/2015 02:25 PM
Peter Cavallaro Webboard User Reg: 07-09-2010 Posts: 536 Loc: Offline	err, your welcome. do you have something to share? don't be shy, we are just dog lovers here.
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