Hi guys,

you know how much effort I put into this, even before the dog arrived, 2 years studying anything on this site and so on.

I got a big problem, Kira ( 4 months old rottweiler female ) doing fine with me, but Yesterday hurted my girlfriend.


Kira wake up at 7.30 and she come outside with me , playing 30 minutes with flirting pole in garden, then food time and crate time , after 2-3 hours my GF take her out and they stay in terrace, usually Kira will sit next to her. Yesterday she did the same, then dog started to walk around, and then suddently Kira run to my GF. Usually when happen then Kira just run to her and stop next to my gf, this time she didnt, dog started to growl and bite legs, hands and so on. My gf tryed with her preferite toy but dog didnt care.

Im glad its just 4 months old , my GF didnt loose her temper and she didnt yell or punish her, and she bringed the dog into crate without any bad emotions.


then she realized all the blood, 2 holes in the legs and 5 scratch on hands.

Now shes terrified to bring her out again and that is a big problem, we wanna keep her but we need that shes not a danger.

She so depressed cause dog was acting nice till now. She bonded with the dog so much. She followed rules that I told her ( mostly Leerburg rules ) , reward with foods and so on. Always hand feed by her even. Dog never gave proble, except some pee inside house but we accepted it as our fault and some growling while playing, but happy growl.


Kira with me shes nice, never a problem, except when I put her into new enviroment, then she doesnt listen much and sniff+pull leash , just care to me if I dot have real nice food, but thats normal I think. She even listen to me when next to other dogs, and she sit very fast when asked.

Latest days she didnt listen me often as usual,but nothing changed from me. maybe was a alarm ? Dunno.

I tryed to recognize our errors and so far :

- we removed kennel cause she think its allowed peeing inside ( happened once and then we couldnt prevent it )
- She's Always crated if not with us, and then we bring her out in terrace without leash, but that has changed after Yesterday.

The behavior you're describing happened to us too - very 'pushy play' trying to force play behavior. We were also, over the long run, unable to redirect and eventually just started putting him up when he would go into butthead mode (easier said than done when you have a young strong puppy lunging at you as you're taking them inside)

I believe that you may be able to reduce this behavior if you can find a way of tiring her out more mentally but I don't currently have a puppy to test this on Keeping a drop line on her is absolutely a must.

Her teething is likely starting so she's probably a bit grumpy with that as well and your girlfriend's clothes and legs are much softer than many dog toys - Make sure that the toy you're trying to redirect with is SOFT and fluffy if possible, and let her have it as soon as she clamps down to reduce discomfort if you can.

More advice from better trainers will come soon, I'm sure

Edited to add: the most important part - it won't last forever!

I tend to think aggressive play behavior, as well. That's pretty young for dominance/aggression, especially with a pup that you've had since weaning.

IMHO, the situation you describe doesn't detail a lot of exercise and stimulation. Living in an apartment with a working breed mandates a rigorous exercise and training schedule. What are you doing to work and stimulate the pup?

Well, I'm not a better trainer... but I do have an energetic puppy of about the same age as yours, so I can sympathize with what you're going through.

Puppy teeth are incredibly sharp, and human skin is incredibly fragile. I think you have to keep those two physical things in mind here. Your puppy isn't a demon. She's just a puppy, doing what puppies do.

When the puppy is wound up and mouthy, put her on a leash--put her in her crate--or give her something else to put in her mouth.

You also have to be pretty vigilant about not allowing the pup to put her mouth on human skin AT ALL--even just "soft" mouthing. If you are petting her and she puts her mouth on your hand--stop petting. Verbally correct. If necessary, physically correct with a gentle scruff of the neck or something. Some people (myself included) have even resorted to yelping in pain and then walking away from the pup. Whatever you need to do to send a consistent signal that puppies can NEVER put their mouth on a human, not even a little bit. If the mouthing persists, put her in her crate with a toy and walk away.

It will get better. She is a puppy. She is very likely beginning to loose her puppy teeth, and that can be a time when they have a need/desire to CHEW everything.

Puppies take years to mature, not weeks.

Giving you more data so maybe you can help :

my dog activity :

30 minutes of flirting pole when I wake up, that tire her so much.I do that in my garden , its 3000 Meters garden.

Then I crate her and my gf take her out at 10:00, they play with ball in terrace for 20 minutes, then crate, and she come out @12 for lunch, then crate till 14. Then its play time for 15 minutes, and then my GF goes to work, I come back 2-3 hours later and get her out of crate and we do 1 hour and half of going out, usually in city to socialize, or near dog parks, or flirting pole in my garden.


Then crate till 19 and food time at 20:00 , 20 minutes of soft play and then crate till next day. ( ofc before going to bed I let her out for pee @22 and 24 )

I dont have soft toys, except flirting pole. Should I buy them ? What about squick games ? I read around here that its better not use them cause then dog when bite will bite stronger cause doesnt hear "squeak"

I got a couple of tennis balls with squeak that I dont give her but I use for distract her or let focus on me. She doesnt see them, she just hear squeak in my pocket

I think I'd add some self control games to the mix.

I'll link to some when I get to a computer.

if she want something ( toy or food ) from me or my girlfriend, we Always ask Sitz or Platz, Always.

And if she does, its Always food or praise as reward, or toy if its play time. She does everything for flirtin pole and that squeak toy, same for raw meat.

She doesnt look 100% engaged if I use dry meat or other toys.

In my opinion--the routine you outline is only as good as the results you see in front of you. For some puppies, this would be plenty of activity. For others, it may not be.

If your puppy exhibits lots of pent-up energy, then she needs more exercise. That might even be just "mental exercise"--sessions of learning new skills.

You can only study and plan and schedule so much. Look at the living creature standing there. She will indicate to you what she needs pretty clearly.

If she doesn't have any toys that she can lay and chew on for an hour, then she needs that. That could he a soft toy, or a toy bone, or a real bone. But puppies can expend a lot of nervous energy simply laying and chewing. Every puppy will have a different chewing style---just make sure you don't leave her with something that she could destroy and swallow, if that is her tendency.

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I think I'd add some self control games to the mix.

I'll link to some when I get to a computer.

If I think of it, I added also "stay" when I drop a bit of food so she doesnt jump on it. Then I give food sometimes into those " mind games" and I stay there with my dog to solve it, I let her do the job and help only when she's going to drop it.

before walking inside rooms I let her sit and wait for me to go first. What else.... so many stuffs I do =(

It sounds like you are doing all the right things to me. You just need patience. A puppy does not turn into a well-behaved dog in just a few weeks.

What's the quote?--"the days are long, but the years are short..." something like that.