okay so were about 6 months now and I know she is a working lined puppy still. But I don't want a trouble dog down the road cause I didn't do something now correctly.

She does good ignoring people. I can play fetch or tug at parks, parking lots even in petsmart and with that part I am comfortable training using the engagement skills.

My issue is friends. I give the excuse she is a working puppy in progress but in reality she isn't well behaved and I know their a different animal than average pet.

Here is my issue jumping and not being able to have people pet her. Short of me petting and hold her still she just wants to jump on everyone therefore they can't pet her cause she is all over and scares some people.

So what are my options? do I allow them to have a treat and give her a sit and reward? do I put on a prong collar and correct the jumping? I have been patiently just say "nope" till I bleed and she hasn't even given the hint of not jumping. This jumping goes for my family too. She still has the jumping and mouthiness if the person reacts to the hyper jumping dog. So there is that too.

Basically I want her jumping to stop and to be civil for friends who come over and hang out with us. I don't want to put her away cause she does this and then end up with a neurotic or unfriendly dog.

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okay so were about 6 months now and I know she is a working lined puppy still. But I don't want a trouble dog down the road cause I didn't do something now correctly.

She does good ignoring people. I can play fetch or tug at parks, parking lots even in petsmart and with that part I am comfortable training using the engagement skills.

My issue is friends. I give the excuse she is a working puppy in progress but in reality she isn't well behaved and I know their a different animal than average pet.

Here is my issue jumping and not being able to have people pet her. Short of me petting and hold her still she just wants to jump on everyone therefore they can't pet her cause she is all over and scares some people.

So what are my options? do I allow them to have a treat and give her a sit and reward? do I put on a prong collar and correct the jumping? I have been patiently just say "nope" till I bleed and she hasn't even given the hint of not jumping. This jumping goes for my family too. She still has the jumping and mouthiness if the person reacts to the hyper jumping dog. So there is that too.

Basically I want her jumping to stop and to be civil for friends who come over and hang out with us. I don't want to put her away cause she does this and then end up with a neurotic or unfriendly dog.

Hi, Daniel I forgot your dog's breed & why you bought a working-lines pup -- I am in NO WAY any kind of expert trainer, and I know you will get some great answers here from those with a lot more Knowledge & Experience than I have, but below are just some thoughts off the top of my head:

Sounds pretty much like any typical Pushy HIGH-DRIVE Puppy...

I would keep her Training & Treating to myself, rather than including friends & guests in on the act -- I would want her Focusing On and Obeying Me instead of any visitors...

IMHO, this is mostly a Distraction Issue -- She behaves EXCEPT when some extremely Tempting Distraction (like people who come to see you at home) proves to be more self-rewarding than Paying Attention to YOU...

She's still a bit Young for heavy-handed Corrections, so if it were me, then I would choose to put her away in an outdoor kennel or indoor crate out of sight when folks come over, if she won't settle down -- This in & of itself is a lesson in "the world does NOT revolve around you" since a dog does not need to be The MAIN Attraction at every gathering in your home ... But that's just me, and you may feel otherwise, Daniel

Keep her on a leash and require her to sit before anyone can pet her. If someone is scared by a 6 month old dog jumping on them, she should definitely be put up before they come over. (It's their right to either not come over or only come over when the dog is put up, it won't ruin her for people, I promise) Exercise her before they come over. Schedule meal time for when they come over so maybe she's a little less frantic. I wouldn't turn people into treat machines, she already likes them a little too much.

If she's a working puppy in progress, why do you want everyone to be able to pet her? This is not a criticism, just a question.

Let me clarify I wasn't very clear. I didn't buy her as a working puppy. She has police dogs and search and rescue dogs in her background she is east german lines, german shepherd. She does have good drive but is essentially a family dog and we wanted an active dog with drive for obedience and nosework. So I am not needing a working dog to the point that I am in the public realm doing dog work for a living. I hope that makes sense. I am at work and responding so it may be rushed.

She will be doing obedience and and nosework. So nothing official like a police or SAR dog.

Everything you guys have said is what I have been doing other than the time I say okay to someone wanting to see her. I was just wanted to make sure because I have never raised a dog where I don't let people pet her or hang out. So it is a bit foreign but that is okay. So that really confirms to me I need to be putting her up if to much or continue with the engagement.

Thanks for your response. I just have to educate family and friends cause they all have the pound puppies that hang out with everyone.

ALSO Side note but relevant to issue. I am going camping with two families that has kids and a dog. There basically is no way around it and we are going. I assume this all applies other than I will have a crate. This is my plan telling everyone to ignore her unless I say otherwise. Also she will be tethered to me at all times when not in crate. She is in training and needs everyone to ignore her.

NILIF

"Nothing In Life Is Free".

The dog gets no petting unless it's sitting. That starts with you and you can't add other people until the dog is solid at it with you.

As mentioned above this is nothing more then distractions.

Distractions have to be added to the training slowly.

I think the camping trip your going in is going to be a cluster **** simply because the level of distraction is going to be far more then what the dog is ready for.

Do you understand marker training? Works wonder for high drive dogs.

Tethering the dog to you during this trip is a great idea.

Everyone ignoring her is a good idea.

How is the other family's dog expected to react to your dog?

Obviously you can't expect that dog to ignore your dog and vs vsa.

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NILIF

"Nothing In Life Is Free".

The dog gets no petting unless it's sitting. That starts with you and you can't add other people until the dog is solid at it with you.

As mentioned above this is nothing more then distractions.

Distractions have to be added to the training slowly.

I think the camping trip your going in is going to be a cluster **** simply because the level of distraction is going to be far more then what the dog is ready for.

Do you understand marker training? Works wonder for high drive dogs.

Tethering the dog to you during this trip is a great idea.

Everyone ignoring her is a good idea.

How is the other family's dog expected to react to your dog?

Obviously you can't expect that dog to ignore your dog and vs vsa.

Just Personally Speaking, I would rather leave my young dog at a reputable & responsible Boarding Kennel rather than take her on this camp-out, where she is most likely to experience any number of SET-BACKS

I just returned from a 2 wk vacation in RI where my working dogs training was tested.

"Just dogs" are expected to just hang out, get along with each other, permit petting by strangers, be like Lassie with running children. Well---no can do!

He spent a lot of time in his crate, and I spent a lot of time walking and working with him away from everyone. A relief, to get away from the fam, for me, too. By the end, we could walk thru the park on a leash free heel. Pretty great, for a farm dog! My cousins 10lb yappers accompanied us on their flexi-leads.

My guy was absolutely terrific, I was very proud.

Yes Bob, I am doing marker training. And it is awesome. I will work on her before we go but it is going to be lots of management and training. Thanks everyone.

FWIW, Daniel... In working dogs, "civil" means the opposite of the context that you're using it in. A "civil" human is stable and gtes along with people, as a rule.

In the working dog world, "civil" refers to a dog that will react and aggress a man who is in neither uniform (i.e, civilian) nor bitework equipment. The civil dog will act aggressively toward a person without needing the cues that some dogs take from a sleeve or a bitesuit.

Getting a working line puppy and asking it to be a chilled family companion is asking a quite a bit. Your dog needs to satisfy his drives and burn off his inherited energy. Good luck with that.

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FWIW, Daniel... In working dogs, "civil" means the opposite of the context that you're using it in. A "civil" human is stable and gtes along with people, as a rule.

In the working dog world, "civil" refers to a dog that will react and aggress a man who is in neither uniform (i.e, civilian) nor bitework equipment. The civil dog will act aggressively toward a person without needing the cues that some dogs take from a sleeve or a bitesuit.

Getting a working line puppy and asking it to be a chilled family companion is asking a quite a bit. Your dog needs to satisfy his drives and burn off his inherited energy. Good luck with that.

That's for sure, Duane -- Having recently been an AKITA owner for 10 years, in that community we used to deal with folks frequently who got an Akita for whatever reason imaginable, and then expected it to act like some Easy-Going LOVES ALL DOGS "Golden Retriever" ... Not gonna happen, EVER, not even if you're The World's GREATEST "Dog Whisperer" !!! Like trying to jam a square peg into a round hole, IMHO