 How often repeat an already solid exercise
#399844 - 11/14/2015 06:06 AM |
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As the dogs with the tie going on are learning more and more exercises, it will not be powwible to repeat ech one regularly.
If they know something very well, get it right on commando 9 out of ten times, how much time canI wait until training it again in order to save it from extinction. This may differ from dog to dog, but perhaps it exists kind of rule of thumb.
Thanks for telling me, what experiences you've made with this.
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Re: How often repeat an already solid exercise
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#399845 - 11/14/2015 12:02 PM |
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you answered your own question christina . . . it depends on the dog .
and it's up to you to figure that out .
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Re: How often repeat an already solid exercise
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#399846 - 11/14/2015 10:39 PM |
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Mix all the reliable exercise on a given day but when working something new keep it separate so the dog can stay focused on what it need to learn.
You just don't have to go over the reliable exercises with as many reps AS LONG AS THEY ARE PERFECT. 
One thing you can bet on is something every dog competitor knows.
When you come out of the ring/field the fist thing you'll probably say is "My dog never did that before."  
They always get you on something you THOUGHT was reliable.
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#399849 - 11/14/2015 11:37 PM |
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Rogue can forget something overnight and Maverick can retain skills for weeks/months. Ian's right. It really just depends on the dog.
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#399850 - 11/15/2015 01:13 AM |
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i had a big surprise the other day .
about 8 months ago i had taught henry to close the door behind him , before he was allowed into the house where he would receive his dinner .
i can't remember when i kind of let the behaviour slide , and then i went to california for the last three months .
two nights ago , i had let henry out for his " hurry up " before dinner , and sure enough , when i opened the inner door to let him in , he automatically turned and shut the outside door before running in to look for his supper . . . i'd forgotten i even taught him that !
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Re: How often repeat an already solid exercise
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#399852 - 11/15/2015 01:07 PM |
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Mix all the reliable exercise on a given day but when working something new keep it separate so the dog can stay focused on what it need to learn.
You just don't have to go over the reliable exercises with as many reps AS LONG AS THEY ARE PERFECT.
One thing you can bet on is something every dog competitor knows.
When you come out of the ring/field the fist thing you'll probably say is "My dog never did that before."
They always get you on something you THOUGHT was reliable.
Thanks bob, great answer. I already have experienced that I was mistaken, with something I thought they knew for sure. On the other habd I've already been various times surprised to see what they remembered, although I thought I had neglected to train this enough.
Same suprising thing, when I give them a verbal cmmmand and they donr´t follow it. I say "Hey!" and suddenly they do it as always. They seem to to hear and understand, but there is somthing in their mind, which has priority
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#399853 - 11/15/2015 01:11 PM |
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you answered your own question christina . . . it depends on the dog .
and it's up to you to figure that out .
You're certainly right, Ian. But if I answer my question to myself in this way, i will never have a halfway reliable guideline.
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#399854 - 11/15/2015 01:24 PM |
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christina remember that a physical cue has more relevance to the dog than a verbal one , so it could be that unless you have proofed and generalized those commands , the dog is not going to remember / repeat the behaviour until you give him a " reminder " .
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#399856 - 11/15/2015 11:23 PM |
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To add to Ian's comment it sounds like the reward may not be high enough for the dog to make the effort OR it's been unknowingly used as a bribe and if the dog doesn't see it then it doesn't connect the command immediately.
Have you used corrections when the dog doesn't understand on the first command?
"IF" you believe the dog really does understand then it could be time for a correction phase.
The "hey" may not be enough even though the dog does then obey.
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#399858 - 11/16/2015 05:20 AM |
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Rogue can forget something overnight and Maverick can retain skills for weeks/months. Ian's right. It really just depends on the dog.
Yes it is true, they can be very different. It already happened that I was convinced (!) to have put the same training time and the same way of training. I also believed that the more easy learner Pit would remember a certain exercise better than the other one, and it turned out the other way. So I had to help with a slight physical help qnd retrin fro thqt point on again.
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